UnAsked4 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I am very new to Logic Pro X, but I want to control some "legacy"? equipment with Midi. I'm looking for environment (LSO?) files for the following: Yamaha S90 Es Proteus 2000 with composer Rom Roland Jv-1010 with bass-&-drums expansion card If such files can't be had, does software exist to build them? Thanks, UnAsked4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 What exactly are you trying to do ? Call up patches by their actual names ? Actually edit the sounds in the modules ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnAsked4 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 Yes about calling the patches by name. I'm blind, and being able to read bank/patch names in Logic will be a significant improvement. Not particularly interested in editting at this point. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I've checked in all my archives but couldn't dig up anything related to your modules. Maybe some patch lists are still floating around on the net. Basically, you create a Multi Instrument in the Environment, then double-click that Multi-Instrument's header (gosh, I haven't done this in like 20 years). There you can enable different banks, according to your module. Then, you paste lists of 127 preset names for each bank. Finally, you select the format of the bank change command (usually it's cc32). From then on, you can use the Multi Instrument as the track instrument in the main window and choose bank nr and preset name from the instrument inspector on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnAsked4 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 Thanks! I have inquiries to contacts in some local music stores but so far, all the links to such files are no longer working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution fuzzfilth Posted February 10, 2019 Solution Share Posted February 10, 2019 Attached, there's a s90es from trafficarte, posted in this very site, a couple years ago. s90es.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Here's a Proteus 2000, from Andy.M, on LPH. p2000.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnAsked4 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 In the name of succinct replies, I won't gush too much! But you really have no idea how helpful this is. Using these as examples, I can probably create one for the Roland from a Sonar .ins file. Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Hang on, here's the 1010, compiled by yours truly. 1010.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnAsked4 Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 Thanks for everything! This is great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrackem Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I can't believe my good luck in finding this thread, I just dusted off my old JV 1010 (last used c. 2001) and am trying to graduate from Garage band to Logic (formerly a digital performer user). Thank you for this information!!! I wanted to post this other thread here too for newbies like me, it has more info on this topic: Thank you @fuzzfilth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Hi, does anyone happen to have environment patch list for Yamaha XS 70/90? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, iMacCartney said: Hi, does anyone happen to have environment patch list for Yamaha XS 70/90? I couldn't find one, but I'm willing to help you build one if you'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Thank you David. It's been a while since I last visited here...I'm not sure when I have time for this but I already found some youtube video about this issue but thought that I could save some time and nerves if someone got one.... I will post again if (when) I'm stuck with it. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, iMacCartney said: I will post again if (when) I'm stuck with it. Yes, don't hesitate, I can show you how to do it. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 David, is this the kind of approach you would recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 hours ago, iMacCartney said: David, is this the kind of approach you would recommend? Basically yes except there's no need to create a spreadsheet, you can just copy/paste from the voice list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Thanks. Well it still looks like a lot of work and headache. I have to find those custom bank messages somewhere.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, iMacCartney said: Thanks. Well it still looks like a lot of work and headache. I have to find those custom bank messages somewhere.... They're in the data list PDF. Page 102: https://fr.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/7/335817/s90xs_en_dl_c0.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Thanks again David. I was actually looking this data list earlier today but it not clear to me what parameters i need to add to that "custom midi messages" table (or what ever it's called...not in front of Logic now) I'll have to dig deeper into this in the next few days and probably ask your help. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, iMacCartney said: I'll have to dig deeper into this in the next few days and probably ask your help. Sure. Basically you select the multi-instrument in the MIDI Environment, then choose Options > Define Custom Bank Messages. In the window that pops up you can define the Bank MSB and Bank LSB messages that you see in the data list for each bank number. But don't hesitate if you need further details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Hi David. I just tested this...first 8 banks. Is this going somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Hi again David, couldn't copy / paste the names. Not sure if there is some kind of paste special in Mac? Should I use spreadsheet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Hi David. Is there a workaround for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 All the preset banks are done, 11 banks in total. Had to remove all the blank lines between preset names so it took a while. Now have to decide whether or not do the user presets one by one, huh! Question; is there a way to see bank and program name in main window's inspector? (see the picture) Now I can only see those in the environment window when the multi instrument is selected... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Congratulations! Can you share your work with us? I'm sure that could help someone else with that same synth... If you're willing to share it, do it in the MIDI Environment forum: https://www.logicprohelp.com/forums/forum/5-logic-pro-amp-mainstage-templates-and-environments/ Thanks! 🙂 The bank name is the name of the first program in that bank. You can see the program name in the Inspector when you have an external instrument track selected. To create the tracks, you can drag the multi-instrument from the MIDI Environment below the track headers. Then you can also double-click the track icon to pop up that program name window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) Thanks. So if I want to see the bank / program numbers in the inspector, I always have to drag multi instrument from the environment....and when selecting new instrument using + button and ext. instrument, there is no way get this bank / program view to show up? And how do I save this? As a template? Is there a way to save just multi instrument and load it to an other projects? Edited April 30, 2023 by iMacCartney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacCartney Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 And one more question...now with an ext. instrument selected this lower part of the inspector looks weird. Is that how it supposed to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkletch Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 I just came across this video today as well. Very in-depth about making Environments in Logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 4 hours ago, iMacCartney said: when selecting new instrument using + button and ext. instrument, there is no way get this bank / program view to show up? Yes yes, it's the same. In fact that's what I did in the screenshot I shared in my previous post. Just make sure you choose External Instrument as the track type, like this: 4 hours ago, iMacCartney said: And how do I save this? As a template? Is there a way to save just multi instrument and load it to an other projects? No, you can't save just a multi-instrument, you have to save it in a template. You can however import an environment layer from one project to another. 4 hours ago, iMacCartney said: And one more question...now with an ext. instrument selected this lower part of the inspector looks weird. Is that how it supposed to be? Yes. That's an external MIDI track channel strip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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