thomaskyhn Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Has anyone else had problems when capturing MIDI data (using the MIDI FX Freeze plugin or the IAC Driver/external instrument method)? I get errors – excessively long notes – almost every time, and I can't figure out what's causing the problem. It happens even in projects that contain no automation and no other MIDI effect plugins than MIDI FX Freeze. I've tried deleting Logic's plist file, audio units cache, and starting from scratch with an empty project, but the problem persists. I've looked for other ways of capturing MIDI data, but haven't been able to find any. If anyone knows of one, I'd be happy to know about it. (Logic Pro X 10.4.4 on macOS 10.14.4.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Excessively long notes often occur when you're recording the Note on but not the Note off. So Logic creates a Note off event when you stop the recording, resulting in note(s) lasting until the end of the recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaskyhn Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 Thanks for your reply. Do you know why this happens? As a test, I've captured this MIDI region using MIDI FX Freeze: Here's the result: As you can see, the notes stop before the end of the recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaskyhn Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 Addition: There are no other MIDI effect plugins in this project, and there's only this one track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelonyc Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Extremely long notes can and does happen.. I get it occasionally just when Logic is playing a lot of tracks and recording MIDI.. I'm 'GUESSING', Logic is busy processing something, when the note off comes in, and it gets overlooked.. You can adjust length by hand, or use 'Function' command to pick long notes and set all long notes to a desired length in one step.. An inconvenience, but this has been something that pops up in Logic for years, usually pretty rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Try changing the Process Buffer Range to Large in Audio prefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaskyhn Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 Try changing the Process Buffer Range to Large in Audio prefs. Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I don't use MIDI FX Freeze but have used IAC busses in the past and never had that problem. I'm not sure where it's coming from. If you have a project where you can repeatedly reproduce this behavior, attach it here with detailed instructions on how to reproduce so one of us can have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaskyhn Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 I don't use MIDI FX Freeze but have used IAC busses in the past and never had that problem. I'm not sure where it's coming from. If you have a project where you can repeatedly reproduce this behavior, attach it here with detailed instructions on how to reproduce so one of us can have a look. That would be a great help. Here's an example – a project with two tracks, each with an instance of the MIDI FX Freeze plugin and an instance of EXS24. When I attempt to capture the region in the two tracks simultaneously, the problem occurs. (This setup is only meant to reproduce the problem; in other scenarios there would, of course, be no point in capturing MIDI data similar to what you already have.) I've included the MIDI FX Freeze plugin in the zip file. Steps to reproduce: * open both MIDI FX Freeze plugins * click the big circular button, so that (part of) it turns red (in order to prepare it for capturing MIDI data) * play back the regions in the project from bar 1 to 20 * drag the captured MIDI files from MIDI FX Freeze onto any track to see the result https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2qn0dukblillyv/Test.logicx.zip?dl=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred B Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I've once tested the MIDI FX Freeze plugin and noticed similar problems. In my experience it's just unusable. Also, the download page seems not available anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaskyhn Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 I've once tested the MIDI FX Freeze plugin and noticed similar problems.In my experience it's just unusable. Also, the download page seems not available anymore. Yes, the developer seems to have disappeared. I've used it a lot earlier without any problems; I'm not sure what has happened. Perhaps it's become incompatible with Logic; or Logic has a bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I've never had any problem with it, but i haven't used it extensively. I can't think of any other trick to make it work, which gets you back to using IAC to render your midi regions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I don't use MIDI FX Freeze but have used IAC busses in the past and never had that problem. I'm not sure where it's coming from. If you have a project where you can repeatedly reproduce this behavior, attach it here with detailed instructions on how to reproduce so one of us can have a look. That would be a great help. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant I'm willing to test a project that showcases the issue using IAC busses, no MIDI FX Freeze plug-ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaskyhn Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant I'm willing to test a project that showcases the issue using IAC busses, no MIDI FX Freeze plug-ins. OK. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jendakub Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Hello, MIDI FX Freeze plugin has been updated to Audio Unit v3 and now works well in macOS Mojave, Catalina & Big Sur with Logic Pro X version 10.5.1. More info at http://www.audiocr.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 its not free anymore I see. Last time I tried it, it was pointed out to me that it does not capture all midi events correctly, only notes; not CC for example...something like that. I can't remember the details now, there are some threads about it if you search around. I used to recommend it emphatically but I can't recommend it again until its confirmed they have fixed all those issues. Maybe its better now but I don't wanna pay for it unless I know it's fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 So here's the thread where people discusses some issues with MidiFXFreeze, it wasn't as I said above about CC events not being recorded....at least for me...but rather that the midi timing was not accurate.... sample accurate positioning of midi events was not retained in the tests I did. I'd love to find out you have fixed that sort of stuff, but I don't wanna pay to find out. Glad to hear that you intend to support it now as a commercial product though..it could be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods101 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) Hi, Late to the party, but @Dewdman42, I had the same issues and then realised plugin was calibrated to a different sample rate. Check that the sample rate in the drop down menu on the plugin matches the project sample rate. Should be fine then. Edited September 14, 2023 by woods101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I made that post a long time ago. Since then midifxfreeze seems to have been updated and doesn’t have the problems I mentioned 3 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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