fontaine666 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I've been noticing sometimes certain audio stops being able to be controlled, for instance to bring the level up or down or add any effects etc. It's really annoying me. I find that if I copy the track then drag down the audio it works on the new track but obviously I don't want to keep doing this. I notice that the little green on light doesn't react when this happens, and the audio level for that track goes right down. It may be an easy fix, but I just don't know how to solve it, without copying the audio to a new track etc. Is it a bug? Thanks very much for all your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 No, it's not a bug, at least not a known one. Most issues like this end up being pilot error, however before we can determine what it is, some testing is in order. First: are we talking audio coming from audio regions on the track during playback? Or monitoring a live source? Or MIDI regions triggering a software instrument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fontaine666 Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Yes its audio, usually midi triggering software instruments on playback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fontaine666 Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Sorry I mean, not audio, usually just midi as I said above... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Ok then it could be track automation, or region automation, or simply MIDI CC#7 (Volume) inside the region. If you can't find it, attach a copy of a project leaving only the track that exhibits the issue and indicate at which bar number the issue: How to attach files to your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fontaine666 Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 So I've just opened logic this morning and that track is now fully operational again. Confusing, as it only happens occasionally? I'm pretty sure it's not automation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 So I've just opened logic this morning and that track is now fully operational again. Confusing, as it only happens occasionally? I'm pretty sure it's not automation. When I see someone say "pretty sure", in my scientific troubleshooter brain this immediately translates to "not 100% sure". Next time this occurs again, attach a copy of your project here so that we can have a look. Note that it could also be a connected MIDI device sending volume events in real time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fontaine666 Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 Well I know how automation works, and obviously this is only happening occasionally, then when I reboot logic it goes, or if I move the region to a new track it goes, so the 'pretty sure' is based on those assumptions. There were no connected midi devices, just the soundcard. This has never happened before I upgrade to the latest version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Well I know how automation works, and obviously this is only happening occasionally, then when I reboot logic it goes, or if I move the region to a new track it goes, so the 'pretty sure' is based on those assumptions. There were no connected midi devices, just the soundcard. This has never happened before I upgrade to the latest version. What I mean is that rather than base your conclusions on assumptions, try to actually get to the bottom of it. For example if there's track automation, moving the region to a new track would indeed make the problem go away, so that test does not prove that it's not a track automation issue. I mean if I said "my car won't start and I'm pretty sure there's gas in the tank", the first thing you'd say is "well... why don't you actually LOOK in the tank and see if there actually is gas or not, so that you can be 100% sure?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fontaine666 Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 So if it was automation why would it happen on random tracks at random times? And even without moving the region, just rebooting logic after a save resolves it? Surely a reboot wouldn't remove any automation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Oh here’s another simple check: when you hear the level drop, do you actually: 1. See the volume faded change position? 2. See the level drop on the meters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fontaine666 Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 I'm at the stage where I haven't automated the volume on any tracks yet. I don't see the volume fader change position, it's just the volume fader has no effect on the volume when it happens, I can turn it all the way down and it still plays, but at a slightly lower volume than normal. The green light that shows that audio is playing is off. Hope this helps. Sorry, hope i'm being not too vague! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fontaine666 Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Harro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I can turn it all the way down and it still plays, but at a slightly lower volume than normal. Can you share a screenshot, during playback, so that I can see the meters? How to attach files to your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fontaine666 Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 So "violins 2' has just started doing it, volume has decreased and there is way I can control it etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fontaine666 Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 Ok so i've just figured it's something to do with when there is a stack of instruments, in this case violins, when i expand the track I can control each individual violin sound just not the overall one for some reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Can you make a copy of the project, remove all tracks but the stack exhibiting the issue, and attach it here so that I can have a look? How to attach files to your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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