moving library and loops - symlinks no longer seem to work?

[simeonharris]

hi there. i recently upgraded my machine to monterey and logic to version 10.7.4. i had symlinks made for the logic and garageband folders in the application support folder, which pointed to an external hard drive. i also had one for the apple loops folder. they all broke after the installation, so i remade them, but they wouldn't stick - every time i installed any missing content, they were overwritten. i then attempted to use the "relocate library" option in logic itself, which seemed to work, as it created new symlinks in the process. unfortunately, they don't stick either. they're overwritten by installing any new content. is there anything i can do to solve this?

 

edit: i should have said, i'm creating the symlinks in terminal using "sudo ln -s"

when i get info on the symlink folders, they are described as an "alias", which is odd

 

many thanks

 

sim

Edited October 18, 2022 by simeonharris

[David Nahmani]

Your best bet is to get rid of the current library you have, all the symlinks, everything, then reinstall and relocate the library using Logic's relocate function. Once that's done properly, Logic will know where your library is and you should be able to install any new or missing content without overwriting anything. 

[simeonharris]

problem is, i kinda already tried this but using "relocate library" to move everything to a different external drive. logic created new symlinks in the process...i watched it happening. i'm wondering if it's a bug, but i haven't seen other reports of this happening while looking online for a solution.

i suppose what you suggest is probably the next thing i should try.

[Blueskysounds]

I have the same problem, any solution?

[simeonharris]

i think it's a bug. symlinks can be created successfully and remain as long as logic doesn't overwrite them when installing new library content. i haven't installed any new content for a while, so i don't know if this has been fixed in 10.7.6

[kevaquarian]

Hi. I found this thread when investigating this topic in regard to Apple Loops re-location/re-linking to an external drive and symlinks etc. Something has changed in Monterey and the manual symlink method is not working for me either. New content overwrites the symlink and all is screwed.

I managed to avoid some re-downloading etc for the actual library stuff, and just deal with the SLM not recognising that I have stuff installed, but for the Apple Loops there is no "in house" relocation option that I know of, so I went for the symlink method again, and it does not work on my setup.

I'm wondering whether it needs to be a "hard link" instead - which I recall reading about a while back, but I'm not sure what the deal is with that...can't remember now.

Quick moan: I've been on Logic for about 15 years now, and still Apple have never sorted out a proper library management system for the library and loops - it's pretty appalling I say. It's not that challenging to implement a standard "where are your Apple Loops" functionality within Logic?.....

 

 

[simeonharris]

hmm odd. i'm now on moterey and it seems to be fixed. i actually watched as new content was installed and the symlinks were unaffected

[kevaquarian]

thanks for replying..

hmmmm..... weird.... did the new content installed include Apple Loops or just library stuff?

[simeonharris]

hmm...i can't remember. i think it was actually both.

[kevaquarian]

Well, for me it is only the Apple Loops that has this issue - installing other library content is fine.

[simeonharris]

there's a good chance then, that it was just library content for me too

[kevaquarian]

hmmmm... well - yeah maybe - I'd be curious to know! Anyway, for the time being I have moved the Apple Loops back to my system drive so everything can be tidy, even though I would rather not stream audio from the system drive ;-(

I may look into the "hard link" thing again and try that for the Apple Loops sometime.

Thank you for replying here on this 😉

[simeonharris]

just to quickly follow up - i can confirm that installing new apple loops overwrites the symlink to the loops folder. you can "get info" on the folder and hit the "locked" checkbox and this stops logic overwriting the folder, but no new loops can be installed until you unlock it. that'll prevent it happening without you knowing, though.

Edited November 2, 2023 by simeonharris

[kevaquarian]

Hey! Thanks for taking a moment to pop back and confirm this. I've not had a moment yet to look into the hard links thing as a possible solution for the Apple Loops. If and when I do get something sorted out, I'll be sure to came back on this thread.