Jan Krofta Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Hi, I am using Logic X Pro with Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3gen for a while. Now I wanted expand possibilities. So I bought Cranborne 500 ADAT. And I connected everything by manuals and some guide videos. I set up clock and same bitrate. I made everything what was described, but inputs from ADAT are not in Logic. I presume that something wrong is between the Focusrite Control and Logic. Because you can see working levels on these channels and you can also listen signal when you use "custom mix" I am still waiting for some answers from technical support of both companies, so I am trying to ask there. Have anybody any idea? Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3gen; Cranborne Audio 500 ADAT; Logic X Pro; MacBook Pro 16inch M1Max Thank you Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Jan Krofta said: inputs from ADAT are not in Logic. What do you see exactly in Logic? How many inputs do you have access to? What I would recommend is that you create a new empty project in Logic with as many mono audio tracks as you have mono inputs available, using ascending inputs. R-enable them all and see if you can see any level on any of them. Like this (for example if you can access 18 inputs in Logic Pro): Also set your monitoring like this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Krofta Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 Thank you I will try it... but in Logic I can se all twenty channels which they are available from Scarlet expanded by ADAT. But when I choose any from ADATchannels like input and I know that here is a signal, because I see the measure of signal on level in Focusrite Control software and I can also listen this signal from custom mix there, signal not comes into Logic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jan Krofta said: Thank you I will try it... but in Logic I can se all twenty channels which they are available from Scarlet expanded by ADAT. But when I choose any from ADATchannels like input and I know that here is a signal, because I see the measure of signal on level in Focusrite Control software and I can also listen this signal from custom mix there, signal not comes into Logic... That is why I suggest you create the 20 tracks and record-enable them all. Because it's possible that the tracks aren't numbered in the same way in the Focusrite software and in Logic. At least if you have all the tracks set up and R-enabled, you can see if any of them shows any signal, even if it's not the one you expect. I can't guarantee it will work but it's a good test to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Krofta Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 here is Focusrite Control scrennshot... bass guitar comes thouh the ADAT & Scarlett to the computer and when I put volume of custom mix up I can hear it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Try raising that fader up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Krofta Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 and here is printscreen what is visible in Logic (all 20 channels from Scarlett) analog channels works and goes into logic, digital/ADAT not... their signal not come to the Logic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Jan Krofta said: their signal not come to the Logic... Have you tried the test I suggested? And did you try raising that fader up in the Focusrite control software? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Krofta Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 OK Iill do the test but as you can see here Logic receives which track is which from Scarlett... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Krofta Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 About the "volume up" I tried with the same result... the volum knob in Focusrite Control just give you possibility of alternate mixes for headfones of singer or players which you record... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Krofta Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 but thank you for any idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Jan Krofta Posted October 23, 2022 Author Solution Share Posted October 23, 2022 Your Idea of multiple recording test was GREAT! It is interesting for me. ADAT Outputs are as Logic received from driver and as is described in manual. But inputs to the Logic are shifted about two... It means that driver sent info that ADAT 1 input is input 13 (and in the Scarlett manual is described same) but in real is on input 11. Same with other channels. Now it WORKS! Thantk you David. It was really helpfull. And maybe it will helps to somebody else! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Fwiw, this comes up pretty frequently on the forum, it's the spdif inputs that "throws it off". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Krofta Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Bettencourt Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I'm having the same problem but a little different. I can't hear some of my ADAT channels through Logic Pro. From 1 to 4 it's ok. When I push the R button, I can hear them. From 5 to 8 I can see the levels moving up on the ADAT display, but when I hit the R button on Logic Pro, no sound for them. By the way, I'm using 2 Scarlett 18i20. One as the main one and the second as an ADAT. I already did the test suggested by David Nahmani. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAC Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Your screenshot shows the Dual ADAT as disabled is that the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Bettencourt Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 12 hours ago, rAC said: Your screenshot shows the Dual ADAT as disabled is that the problem? rAC - The Dual ADAT isn't disabled. I Believe you must be referring about the RETAIN 48V function which indeed is disabled. That function is just for retaining the 48V 1-4 or 5-6 buttons turned on, when I shut Scarlett off and on again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Bettencourt Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 12 hours ago, rAC said: new connection problem (Live, Logic, FF800, ADAT) (see solo/mute topic) @musicman64 I ca'nt see how both topics are related. Can you explain it to me, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAC Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 @Rodrigo Bettencourt I don’t think that that was me that you quoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Bettencourt Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) The weird thing is that 1-4 channels are working fine through Logic. 5-8 aren't. But all of them have their input display moving on Scarlett. Which means all channels are receiving signals. Edited February 13 by Rodrigo Bettencourt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 1/28/2024 at 2:32 AM, Rodrigo Bettencourt said: I already did the test suggested by David Nahmani. How many tracks did you R-enable (or record) simultaneously? 10 minutes ago, Rodrigo Bettencourt said: But all of them have their input display moving on Scarlett. Do you also see them moving in the Scarlett software? Can you see which channels they are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Bettencourt Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 10 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: How many tracks did you R-enable (or record) simultaneously? Do you also see them moving in the Scarlett software? Can you see which channels they are? 20 tracks are R-enabled. If you mean the Focusrite Control software, It happens the same. It moves from 1-4 but not 5-8. ADAT channels are from 11-18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Are both devices set to 48 kHz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rodrigo Bettencourt Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: Are both devices set to 48 kHz? Yes. Both Sync to 48kHz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Ok make sure the Scarlett you're using as an ADAT preamp is properly set up as standalone and has its 8 mic preamps routed to the corresponding ADAT outputs? See: https://support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/articles/115003394169-Using-Standalone-Mode-to-increase-your-channel-count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Bettencourt Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 9 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: Ok make sure the Scarlett you're using as an ADAT preamp is properly set up as standalone and has its 8 mic preamps routed to the corresponding ADAT outputs? See: https://support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/articles/115003394169-Using-Standalone-Mode-to-increase-your-channel-count I'm checking everything again. But here is a pic of the connection between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Because you're only detecting inputs 1-4 it looks suspiciously as if the standalone Scarlett is set to 96 kHz?? But surely you would hear that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Bettencourt Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Done! There were some config mistakes on my expansion device: I had wrongly configured both clocks inverted: internal on my host and ADAT on my expansion. It must be the other way around. Also the ADAT channels 5-8 weren't configured to its respective analogue 5-8 as it should. The support articles links you've sent helped me to configure it properly. Thank you very much @David Nahmani 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Great! Very good to hear. You're welcome. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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