BFD3 - multi outs assignments

[cmf]

 

In LP 10.4.7 I have the option to choose 1stereo and 15 mono outs(AUX) when inserting BFD3. In 10.7.5 its gone. Can anyone confirm, or inlighten me how that have come to pass!? 

 

I now use Mac Mini(2018), Monterey

 

[Jordi Torres]

Hey cmf,

I can confirm that as of Logic 10.5 all BFD3 multi-out configurations that included 1xStereo are gone.

As to why? Can't say for sure but it affects other third party instruments as well (Kontakt, for example).

J.

 

[cmf]

Hi Jordi

Thanks for reply.... But damn. 

That really sucks, cus in order to have 15 mono tracks setup in the daw(kick, sn, toms... Etc), one need mono configurations PLUS one stereo for ambient.... If not two... One for OH. Now, we're left with a lot of mono or stereo. 

I haven't heard from BFD forum yet.... 

[Jordi Torres]

Hi cmf,

I agree with you that it's not so cool.

Back in Logic 9/BFD2 days I used to do a trick using the input format button Logic's multi-out Aux channel strips to tweak the multi-out configuration more to my liking/needs:

But I remember that when Logic Pro 10 came out, this became almost impossible:

LPX: not possible to set Multi-Out Inst. Aux Input to L or R - Logic Pro - Logic Pro Help

I tried it today and it's possible to get that tick going, but man it's buggy as hell! 🤯. You really have to fight the program just to get the input format button and its dropdown menu to appear (setting the input to "no input", messing with the input format button of nearby audio channel strips, forcing graphic redraws by hiding/showing the mixer, etc.). Insane. And if you manage to get it working,  better not touch those input slots again, because everything you did before breaks! 

J.

[polanoid]

On 12/30/2022 at 3:23 PM, Jordi Torres said:

I tried it today and it's possible to get that tick going, but man it's buggy as hell! 🤯. You really have to fight the program just to get the input format button and its dropdown menu to appear (setting the input to "no input", messing with the input format button of nearby audio channel strips, forcing graphic redraws by hiding/showing the mixer, etc.). Insane. And if you manage to get it working,  better not touch those input slots again, because everything you did before breaks! 

Can you post a video of that? Don't see anything like that here.

[Jordi Torres]

@polanoid,

Do you mean you can set the input format (and specifically Left, Right) of a multi-output instrument's aux channel strips without issues in Logic Por 10.x.x?

I would like to see a video of that 😉

Just try it, the input format button is not even there by default on those auxes:

 

J.

[polanoid]

1 minute ago, Jordi Torres said:

Do you mean you can set the input format (and specifically Left, Right) of a multi-output instrument's aux channel strips without issues in Logic Por 10.x.x?

No, sorry, I thought you meant to choose the mono outputs of a multi-out instrument which is what I did and which works here. Didn't even know it was possible to change a multi-out inst's mono out into stereo out or vice versa.

[Jordi Torres]

In Logic 9, the trick with the input format allowed you to freely change the configuration of a given instrument's multi-outs. Say you had an instrument that only had 8xStereo outs. Using the input format's Left and Right options on those stereo auxes (plus panning in the instrument's internal mixer if it had one) you could end up with a custom combination of stereo and mono signals coming into your Logic mixer, say 4xStereo + 8xMono. Similar to what we see in one of the pics from that thread (input format button at the bottom of the channel strip):

J.

[polanoid]

17 hours ago, Jordi Torres said:

In Logic 9, the trick with the input format allowed you to freely change the configuration of a given instrument's multi-outs. Say you had an instrument that only had 8xStereo outs. Using the input format's Left and Right options on those stereo auxes (plus panning in the instrument's internal mixer if it had one) you could end up with a custom combination of stereo and mono signals coming into your Logic mixer, say 4xStereo + 8xMono. Similar to what we see in one of the pics from that thread (input format button at the bottom of the channel strip):

J.

Seems this is still possible in the Environment?

[Jordi Torres]

23 minutes ago, polanoid said:

Seems this is still possible in the Environment?

Are you telling me or asking me? 😅

But you're right! It didn't even occur to me to check in the MIDI Environment as this was always done directly in the Mixer. Unless this functionality is brought back to the mixer, and as long as we have the MIDI environment, this is going to be best way to achieve that in current Logic Pro 10.x.x.

Good catch @polanoid ! 👍

J.

Edited March 5, 2023 by Jordi Torres

[polanoid]

1 minute ago, Jordi Torres said:

Are you telling me or asking me? 😅

But you're right! It didn't even occur to me to check in the MIDI Environment as this was always done directly in the Mixer. Unless this functionality is brought back to the mixer, and as long as we have the MIDI environment, this is going to be best way to achieve that in current Logic Pro 10.x.x 👍

J.

Obviously I was telling you 😉 The question mark was more to express my bewilderment that you didn't find that out yourself

Edited March 5, 2023 by polanoid