paczakers Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Hi guys, can u listen my mix and master and give me feedback? Its not complete - i dont have vocals im middle section https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TNSRQDxIferGRaOiSX6Um3KWQ4JGq4jh/view?usp=drivesdk Thx! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumblepig Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I imagine you're asking more for input on the quality of the mixing and mastering etc, but because I was so impressed with the first piece you shared, I can't help wanting to speak to the production this time. Overall, it's another fine track from you. Your work is at a high level and you have a distinctive touch. I love the little "bum bum bum" vocal section at the end. Is there a way to have this feature at the beginning of the song as well, perhaps in shortened form? Your wife's vocals are a very special secret weapon. I'd love to hear a few darker tones within the instrumental tracks, maybe some distortion amongst the synth sounds to provide a little contrast beneath her voice. Nothing that would dominate or detract, but something "unknown, if not unsettled." There's a quote I remember from Harold Budd (by way of Brian Eno) that went something like "The problem with New Age music is there's not enough evil in it." I'm not pushing for evil, don't worry, but a little murky mystery in the mix is what I'd wish to hear. Regardless of whatever else I said, it's a lovely track and I'm glad you've shared it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paczakers Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Thanks so much! 🙂 Yea, i will probably put vocalise melody also at the begining. About darker tones - there is a lot of saturation and tubes on lot of instruments - it might be to much - but i know what ure talking about and i agree with that 🙂 I will share another version soon. thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Wow. What a voice!! I love the song. 🙂 I agree about the puh puh puh at the end, very cool. I love the composition and the arrangement so I will comment only on the mix and production choices. That's a lot of personal opinions, so take it or leave it of course, just saying out loud what I would start doing if I were to mix/produce the song myself. As for the production, personally I feel like it could be a little more subdued, to better fit the song. It sounds a little too much, like... too loud, or too compressed, like you want it to be loud, but that doesn't really fit the vibe of the song that is more ethereal. Let's take the drums and bass as a reference. The bass sits nicely underneath the surface, unobtrusive, and yet it's solid and right there. I love that. The first rhythmic keyboard that comes in @0:03 could be a tad lighter. Perhaps just in volume, perhaps in sound as well, something thinner? I don't know, something to play with. I hear some distortion that is not welcomed here to my ears. @0:14 the guitar, like the bass before it, sits perfectly nicely in the mix. It's there, we can clearly hear it, but it's just doing its thing right there in the back without screaming "Hey check me out listen to my fancy guitar picking part". It's just doing its thing. Love it. The melodic keyboard on the other hand is too loud for me. Maybe too compressed? Maybe it's the sound you picked? But it's too upfront, or there's too much of it. I LOVE the reverb on only one note of the melodic keyboard @0:20. Very nice little production ear candy trick that keeps the part exciting. 😄 The organ part in the back is fine, not too loud, just adding texture to the arrangement. The vocals... ah that's a tricky one. They're absolutely stunning, but they could use a little TLC from a mixing point of view. They're a little too dry and just-upfront. I think they could benefit from gentle EQ to thin them out a tad in the low-mid department, to tame the proximity effect from the mic a bit, then bring in some kind of nice subtle reverb. I said they're "just-upfront", and what I mean by that is that I wouldn't stray away from having them upfront, but I also want some depth to them. So it's something to add to them, while keeping them upfront at the same time. So basically there's some fat to cut on some of those tracks, mostly vocals and keyboards, to remove some of the muddier frequencies, and that will yield more room to play with reverbs to give each instrument its place. I may be way off base but for me, a good influence for working with reverbs and placing instruments at different distances in a deep stereo field would be Trevor Horn's work on "Dream Within A Dream" by Propaganda. Just in case that helps for the inspiration: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paczakers Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 Uh, thanks guys! Its hard to work on everything u say 🙂 ive made couple of corrections and now its sounds like this - what do u think ? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tpEoNk2ZYMBWB7JoLuAGAeMkdbZGPELW/view?usp=sharing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarletspiral Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I’m listening on laptop speakers. I really like the overall feel of the piece. The main thing that stands is the bright snap of the snare is competing with the vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paczakers Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 Thx - i need to fix it - also i know that the master is too bright and i dont like reverb on vocals 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 10 hours ago, paczakers said: Uh, thanks guys! Its hard to work on everything u say 🙂 ive made couple of corrections and now its sounds like this - what do u think ? Wow! What a difference! I think that new mix is much clearer. I like the vocals better. You've really cut through the fat, that's exactly what it needed. I like the "pam.. pam pam pam" in the beginning as was suggested by @grumblepig but I would remove them the second time they appear in the song. I don't mind that you've decided against adding reverb to the vocals. If that's your style, that's your style. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paczakers Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 Thank u David! Im still learning, so all of suggestions mean a lot for me 🙂 I will send soon another versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paczakers Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 Ok guys - that's the final version (or not?) - what do you think ? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mjqCPlNo7L4pIOzLnYqvwDVdo-kGas6Y/view?usp=sharing @David Nahmani @grumblepig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Very nice. I still think that melodic synth where you don't have the pam-pams is too loud. I would probably leave it at the same level and in the same location in the stereo field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumblepig Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Your vocal is a nice addition to the song - you and your wife have very naturally complimentary styles/tones! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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