mts52 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Recently Logic Pro keeps restarting for no obvious reason. cpu usage is at a minimum so cannot work out why this is happening. This happens no matter which song I open. Tried bypassing all control surfaces which was suggested in another post but that does not change things. So frustrating. Posting here in the hope that someone else has the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scg Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Since no one's answered yet, I'll suggest providing some more detail. Can you describe the behavior? When you say restart, what is it doing exactly? Spontaneously relaunching? Crashing (with an accompanying crash window/report)? Or something else? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 what scg said. does it quit and then restart? which version logic, what OS, and what mac? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Latest version of logic and macOS Monterey. It doesn’t crash logic. It just restarts. This is particularly frustrating especially when it happens during a bounce of my mix. When it restarts during playback it just plays again from the beginning. When it happens during a bounce it just stops and then I have to restart the bounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Is that the Core Audio engine that restarts? What do you see happening exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 During playback it will sometimes just restart from the beginning. Minimal cpu usage and large buffer. When it happens during a bounce it just stops and I have to then restart it. Only once did it crash logic and I sent report to Apple. Not sure I understand if it is core audio problem or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 you mean the SONG restarts? not the app? (because a 'restart' implies that the APP has restarted)... 2 very different things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Yes just the song restarts, not Logic Pro. During playback the song automatically restarts, but when bouncing it stops and I have to then restart it and hope it doesn't happen during the bounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scg Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I know you said you don't think it's CPU-related, but just out of curiosity, do you have 'Display audio engine overload message' enabled in Settings->Audio->General? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 No it is not caused by an audio engine overload at all. I am using a very high buffer size and the cpu usage is extremely minimal. No apparent reason why this should be happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scg Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I understand, and I believe you 🙂 I still think it'd be useful to know if you have that particular notification enabled. (For one thing, just about any relevant data is good to have when troubleshooting. Also, I'm pretty sure there are cases where I've been 'sure' about things when troubleshooting, and then discovered my assumptions were wrong. Not saying that's what's going on here, but as long as the problem remains unsolved, it might make sense to leave any and all possible causes on the table.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 hard to tell what's happening, so many variables. you might want to upload the file here (without any audio files, ie just the basics). there's instructions on how to do this somewhere on the forum (david! help! i've never done it)... but then ppl here could see what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Yes it is already enabled in settings audio general. I have always had it enabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 It is not happening in one particular file. It can happen on any file that I am trying to play or bounce down. Also it doesn't always happen, just some times. Frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 when did this start? ie did it happen in logic 10.7.6? (or whatever you ran before 10.7.7)... what mac, what audio interface? if you disconnect your interface, and run logic thru your internal speakers, does it happen? we still need more info... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 It is only started happening recently. Currently on Logic Pro 10.7.7 Interface is Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, iMac 2009 running Monterey. Currently playing file using inbuilt audio however as it is very sporadic I would probably have to play songs many times for it to happen. Will continue listening using internal audio to see if I can get it to happen during a continuous repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 So when it happens during playback, the playback just stops, the playhead immediately jumps to the beginning of the project and playback automatically resumes from the beginning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Yes David, exactly that. Currently playing track on loop using iMac internal to see if I can get it to happen again. The difference is that when it happens during playback as you said it immediately restarts from the beginning. When bouncing it stops and the file is not written. I then have to restart the bounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 When this happens, is Cycle mode on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Yes because when I am bouncing down I have the cycle locators set for the whole track. Currently cycling a 16bar loop using the inbuilt audio but as luck would have it so far I can't get it to happen. What I will try is not having cycle on when bouncing down. Will just set the beginning and end in the bounce down dialogue manually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Malcolm Stainton said: Will just set the beginning and end in the bounce down dialogue manually. Alternatively, you can drag with the Marquee to select what you want to bounce. Or you can press Command-A to select all your regions (and perhaps move your end point manually in the bounce dialog if you want it past the end of the last region for reverb tails etc...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Will go back to the Scarlett 2i2 and try some further bounce downs to see if it happens again when not in cycle mode. As I said it is sporadic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Malcolm Stainton said: As I said it is sporadic. Worst issues to troubleshoot obviously. The fact that you have a cycle on for the length of the project makes me wonder if you aren't possibly hitting a key command by mistake, which would trigger the playback resuming at the beginning of the cycle? Either you doing it by mistake, or the keyboard malfunctioning, or a stray controller assignment...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 In my searches on the net I did see someone suggesting to bypass all control surfaces which I have done. When bouncing down I do it in real time so I know if it all went ok. I am not touching the keyboard at all. Back to the Scalett 2i2 and cycling 16 bars continuously to see if I can get it to happen again. When it happens during a bounce it doesn't restart. It just stops. It only restarts from the beginning of the cycle range when in normal playback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts52 Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 So far today I haven't had any hiccups. Thanks to all for your replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francesco Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 hi guys; same happen also to me .... i have 2 systems 1 - macbook air m1 base model with Big sur and 10.7.4 - uad apollo8p + 8 - like a breeze never had this issue 2 - one week old mac studio m1 max base model with Monterey and 10.7.7 - uad apollo 8p+ 8 - same issue of this topic .... randomly it acts as the cycle is on while is not.......... i tought it was the external drive ... so i move the projects on the internal but it is the same... is not related by the session .... it happened to me also with a single external midi track .... or i had perfect days with more than 100 track sessions..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Hi @francesco and welcome to Logic Pro Help ! 🙂 36 minutes ago, francesco said: randomly it acts as the cycle is on while is not.......... What do you mean by that exactly? Does the playhead repeatedly cycles over the locators even when Cycle is off? That's not what the OP is experiencing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francesco Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: Hi @francesco and welcome to Logic Pro Help ! 🙂 What do you mean by that exactly? Does the playhead repeatedly cycles over the locators even when Cycle is off? That's not what the OP is experiencing here? i mean (sorry for my poor english) that logic act as the cycle is on, so it reach a point and start back from the last playhead location ..... but cycle is off. a note. .... this don't happen where the cycle is grayed .... if i have a cylce on bars 50-58 and cycle is on it plays just 50-58 .... then i bypass the cycle and move the playhead to bar 72 and press play ..... it start from 72; it goes forward into the session until a point where it restart automatically at 72 .... but this happen randomly and for randomly i mean that is not on a single session or a single plugin issue ... it happened also with an empty or just external midi track session 30 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: Hi @francesco and welcome to Logic Pro Help ! 🙂 thank you 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobworld Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Having this problem as described by OP as well on both my Old Mac Pro and new Mac Studio M1 Ultra. Logic 10.7.7 / UAD Apollo 8 /Monterey 12.6.3. When Cycle mode is on Logic will randomly restart play at the beginning of the cycle. Have tried many forms of trouble shooting and am unable to find a workaround or make it repeatable. It does seem to happen after making an edit of some kind in the project, although it doesn't seem to matter if it is a MIDI edit, and automation move, or and audio edit. In my workflow there are typically a lot of instrument plugins, but as others have observed it can also happen in very simple projects. Playback error - SD 480p.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 this happened to me for a while; resetting the nvram and smc (on my previous intel imac) fixed it... for a moment. it turned out to be my roli lumi controller, sending some problematic data. once i switched controllers, the problem went away (for the record, the lumi also caused logic's filter plugin to sweep the filter 😳). so... try disconnecting your controller, reopening logic... see if the problem continues. for me, at least, this resolved the issue (in fact, i no longer have the lumi). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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