MIDI learn Vintage B3

[Jgirv]

Hi all,

I see where you can choose a hardware controller in the Global section of the plugin, but is it possible to simply assign nine faders on my generic keyboard controller to control the drawbars through MIDI Learn?   I guess the only other way would be to copy down the settings for the hardware modes that they do offer, and change my controller assignments on my hardware, but that’s rather tedious.      Thanks very much for any ideas.  

[Jordi Torres]

Hi Jgirv,

5 hours ago, Jgirv said:

but is it possible to simply assign nine faders on my generic keyboard controller to control the drawbars through MIDI Learn?

Yes it is possible. Did you try it already?

5 hours ago, Jgirv said:

I guess the only other way would be to copy down the settings for the hardware modes that they do offer, and change my controller assignments on my hardware

You can also remap the CCs your controller's faders send to match the CCs the Vintage B3's draw bars respond to in a given hardware controller mode. You could do this in the MIDI Environment or better yet with the Scripter MIDI FX.

But using Controller Assignments' MIDI Learn is much easier and quicker.

J.

[Jgirv]

Thank you for the reply!  

There doesn’t seem to be a way to map my faders to the drawbars through MIDI Learn. MIDI Learn is an option for other Logic synths / plugins, but the VB3 seems to only allow for choosing a premade template for a few existing organ controllers.   If there is a way, I can’t see where in the interface it would be.   

[des99]

Logic has the Controller Assignments feature for just this. Press Command-L to enter learn mode, touch the plugin parameter with the mouse that you want to control, then move the MIDI control you want to use to control it. Then hit Command-L to leave learn mode.

You can edit or fine-tune your assignments in the Controller Assignments window.

More info:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/logicpro/ctls71c31487/mac

Edited June 18, 2023 by des99

[Jordi Torres]

Hi Jgirv,

Look's like I interpreted your mention of "MIDI Learn" as a reference to Logic's global MIDI learn functionality which is done through Controller Assignments, as I mentioned in my previous post and for which @des99 provided more details.

And again, that works with the draw bars in the Vintage B3 😊

J.

[garryknight]

On 6/18/2023 at 7:44 PM, des99 said:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/logicpro/ctls71c31487/mac

That's a great reply for Logic Pro for Mac. Is it the same in the iPad version? If so, how can you achieve this if you don't have a keyboard plugged in?

[des99]

33 minutes ago, garryknight said:

That's a great reply for Logic Pro for Mac.

Aargh! It's going to take a while to break 30 years of "Logic" meaning "Logic on the computer" habits.

Sorry!

Edited June 20, 2023 by des99

[Jordi Torres]

34 minutes ago, garryknight said:

That's a great reply for Logic Pro for Mac. Is it the same in the iPad version? If so, how can you achieve this if you don't have a keyboard plugged in?

Looks like we totally missed (again) that this was asked in Logic for IPad forum. We really need to color this forum hot pink!

J

Edited June 20, 2023 by Jordi Torres

[des99]

I've edited my "Show unread" stream (which is my default day-to-day place I check for new topics) to exclude Logic for iPad, so I will no longer see them and erroneously respond. I don't use the iPad version anyway, so I'm unlikely to contribute much of any use, but at least it will remove any confusion generated by my responses...

Edited June 20, 2023 by des99

[des99]

57 minutes ago, Jordi Torres said:

We really need to color this forum hot pink!

This might be a useful user modification we can do locally with Tampermonkey. I'll explore making the iPad forum hot pink (obviously) on my end...

Edit: And ChatGPT duly made me a script for this... 🙂

Now I always know when I'm in the Logic for iPad forum! 👍

Edited June 20, 2023 by des99

[garryknight]

19 minutes ago, des99 said:

Aargh! It's going to take a while to break 30 years of "Logic" meaning "Logic on the computer" habits.

Sorry!

Ah, ok. I wondered about that since other users of the iPad version have been looking for ways to do this. Thanks for clearing it up.

[David Nahmani]

This should be possible via Scripter however the script would have to be entered in Scripter on the Mac first then moved to the iPad. 

[Jordi Torres]

On 6/22/2023 at 2:15 PM, David Nahmani said:

This should be possible via Scripter however the script would have to be entered in Scripter on the Mac first then moved to the iPad. 

Here's such a script. Quick and dirty, no GUI:

const ccMap = {
  // incoming CC: outgoing CC
  26: 16,
  27: 17,
  28: 18,
  29: 19,
  30: 20,
  31: 21,
  32: 22,
  33: 23,
  34: 24,
  // ...
};

function HandleMIDI(e) {
  if (e instanceof ControlChange) {
    // Remap incoming CC number if within the ccMap object, otherwise use the original CC number
    e.number = ccMap[e.number] || e.number;
  }
  // Send remapped CC and let non-matching events pass through
  e.send();
}

J.

Edited November 27, 2023 by Jordi Torres
Refactored script

[David Nahmani]

Thanks @Jordi Torres ! 🙂