j.loop Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Ok, I am after this 70's "efefct" sound that is very typical for those 70's disco songs... Here is a short sample loop where you can hear what I mean: http://www.speedyshare.com/592834654.html (knock on the wood and Ring my Bell) So any ideas, what that sound is called? And how to make similar sound in LP8? I did find a bit similar sound in LP8's Loops -> Beats called "House Fever Beat 03". But is there any other? or any way how to make it myself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Those are called "syndrums". Attached are two very basic syndrum patches. The first is for EXS24 (you don't need any samples). The second is for ES2. syndrum very basic.pst goes in: HOME > Library > Application Support > Logic > Plug-In Settings > EXS24 syndrum very basic2.pst goes in: HOME > Library > Application Support > Logic > Plug-In Settings > ES2 syndrum very basic 2.pst syndrum very basic.pst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.loop Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Oh thank you so so much! This is just great! I just love these sounds By-the-way... Any ideas of more songs where this syndrum is used (I only remember these 2 songs the Ring My Bell + Knock On The Wood, but I know there are more, I just can't remember the names..)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Glad you liked them! Oh, man, there were 1,000,000 songs that used that sound back in the day. For some reason, "Musique" (the group that did Push Push in the Bush) might have had them on one song. You might just make me break out some vinyl and double-check! 8) But otherwise, I'm drawing a blank too. If a title pops into my head I'll post back with it. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.loop Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Glad you liked them! Oh, man, there were 1,000,000 songs that used that sound back in the day. For some reason, "Musique" (the group that did Push Push in the Bush) might have had them on one song. You might just make me break out some vinyl and double-check! 8) But otherwise, I'm drawing a blank too. If a title pops into my head I'll post back with it. Cheers! Yeah, I also remember that there were LOADS of songs that used that sound in the days... But I can't remember the names. And I tried to find from youtube, but no luck really... I hope some titles will pop into your head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkgross Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 'Ring My Bell' classic disco tune with SynDrums (or...'spoooze' as we used to call them". had a client back then that wanted "you know..those coool sounds that go down in pitch like 'spoooze, spoooze, spooooze' when you hit them!" (use your imagination...you'lll get it...hhahahaha) = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrxsg Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I just was just looking on the internet for some synth drums and found this and downloaded the patches. Just what I was looking for. Thanks very much for sharing. mrxsg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristancalvaire Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 'Ring My Bell' classic disco tune with SynDrums (or...'spoooze' as we used to call them". had a client back then that wanted "you know..those coool sounds that go down in pitch like 'spoooze, spoooze, spooooze' when you hit them!" (use your imagination...you'lll get it...hhahahaha) = Thisthisthis! Though there's a mix that lacks the syndrums which was quite a disappointment to listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 'Ring My Bell' classic disco tune with SynDrums (or...'spoooze' as we used to call them". had a client back then that wanted "you know..those coool sounds that go down in pitch like 'spoooze, spoooze, spooooze' when you hit them!" (use your imagination...you'lll get it...hhahahaha) = Thisthisthis! Though there's a mix that lacks the syndrums which was quite a disappointment to listen to. I don't understand a thing of this exchange... what are you two talking about? Spooze + imagination = haha? Huh? "Thisthisthis" Whatwhatwhat? "there's a mix"... where? where? "that lacks the syndrums" aren't there tons of mixes without syndrums? "...that was a disappointment to listen to." Yeah, but what mix? And where did you disappointedly listen to it? And what's with the "s"? There's no "s" in the sound of syntoms. They do "pyew", "peaw" or "pyoow". Not "spooze". Tsk. I should get out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 He meant there's a mix of "Ring My Bell" without syndrums. I agree about the spoozing though. As punishment you have to listen to the whole 12" mix with spooze all over it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Ahh, thanks for (piew!) claryfying (pyoow - peawpeaw!). Back in the time when it was a hit I somehow always confused it with Gloria Gaynors' "I will survive". Which is weird, as they're pretty different. Sofar I like that 12" mix. It's very punchy. It's the celeste in the chorus that ruins it a bit, but luckily the bariton-chipmunk "Aaaah!" is irresistable. But, at 4 minutes in, the charm has worn off. So I'll post now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Metatool Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Id like to install these patches but I don't understand "home" . In the finder theres nothing called home, how do I install these please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 In the finder theres nothing called home They say a picture is worth a thousand words.... : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hat Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 For our viewers 15 years in the future on Logic X (10.7.5) and macOS Monterey (12.6.1) , the paths are now $HOME/Music/Audio Music Apps/Plug-In Settings/Sampler (R.I.P. EXS24) $HOME/Music/Audio Music Apps/Plug-In Settings/ES2 and these settings still work! Thanks to the OP for asking the question and ski for producing usable examples! Bonus "thanks" to David! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olavsu1 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 On 6/11/2018 at 8:11 PM, Metatool said: Id like to install these patches but I don't understand "home" . In the finder theres nothing called home, how do I install these please? it's /users/YourUserName it's same in all unix like systems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hat Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, olavsu1 said: it's /users/YourUserName it's same in all unix like systems. In most shells (and certainly the default ones), you can use $HOME and it magically works. If you're more included to use Finder, refer to David's post above. macsv2:ES2 hat$ pwd /Users/hat/Music/Audio Music Apps/Plug-In Settings/ES2 macsv2:ES2 hat$ cd $HOME macsv2:~ hat$ pwd /Users/hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I find “~” is the most efficient shortcut to represent the user’s home directory… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olavsu1 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 2:55 AM, des99 said: I find “~” is the most efficient shortcut to represent the user’s home directory… ~ is the user who just logged in from this console. for some other same computer users, his name goes by next of the badge. like: ~someone. http://yourdomain.com/~you is your httpd dir in your $home //how exactly, depends on the benevolence of the your system admin. - is root user. try su - what happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) In case the context of my above comment wasn't clear, I'll expound:- I'm aware how this works from using Unix computer accounts at my university and making web sites in the early 90s, but in the context of its use in paths in a Logic Pro Help forum thread, it's just a shortcut to easily differentiate, and go to in Finder, the Library that's in the user's home folder, rather than the one in the root. As the tilde's role may not be known (or even noticed sometimes), I usually also spell out the full path along the lines of "/Users/*you*/Library/" etc if I think the person is likely to not be familiar with these kind of concepts, but in some ways it's less useful as someone just blindly typing this path as is in the Finder's Go menu isn't going to get success, unlike the tilde variant, which doesn't require knowledge of the user's account name. Any further detail or complexity isn't generally required in this context... Edited January 15, 2023 by des99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRobinson Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) I agree with the principle of spelling-out explicit paths, and would not be surprised if the software did it for you. Things like "~" and "$HOME" are good to use in the command-shell environment but MacOS does different things when launching an "Application," which in their system is a package. They really don't quite launch things under "a shell." Edited January 20, 2023 by MikeRobinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRobinson Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Fun thing to remember about those "syndrums" – back in the 70's and early 80's where "microprocessors" were eight-bit at best, ran at a clock rate of a few kilohertz (kHz), and cost hundreds or thousands of dollars. "Memory chips" were the biggest limitation – tiny and slow – but they were what we had, then, so we used them anyway. "Software synthesis" was an impossibility, and "sampling" was barely getting started. (The "Mellotron" was still "a thing.") If you wanted to generate sounds, you had to build dedicated sound chips ... and you did. MIDI was a brand-new idea that still had to use microphone jacks to get from the sound stage to the control room. ("Cat-5" wasn't here yet – if you had a "local area network" in your office, it used coax. Certainly not "wireless.") Fortunately for all of us, the original designers of the MIDI spec did a damned good job of it ... These now-primitive devices were "the latest thing." We scraped up our many hundreds of dollars from somewhere. We bought them. And, we used them. (Then we memorialized their sounds in modern synth patches ... and, every day, you still hear recently-produced pop music which uses once again "that snare sound." Yes, "that very one." The "808 drum!") And yet, professional musicians did spend $100,000 or more for custom-made "Fairlights" and "Synclaviers," and as I pored over issues of "[Contemporary] Keyboard" magazine, I lusted after all of them but never could persuade my dad to buy one for his teenage son. Never imagining that one day – at least, certainly not in my lifetime – you would have access to far more power on an ordinary Mac (or PC), or even on a phone. Hang on for the rest of the ride, people. "Moore's Law" shows no sign of stopping ... and as for me: "I wouldn't have miss-ed it for the-world ..." Edited January 20, 2023 by MikeRobinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hat Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 7 hours ago, MikeRobinson said: I agree with the principle of spelling-out explicit paths, and would not be surprised if the software did it for you. Things like "~" and "$HOME" are good to use in the command-shell environment I mainly type $HOME since not users on all Macs have their home folder under /Users. 😬 A moment of silence for all those university students who tried to follow some tutorial they found but had NFS mounted homes in some bizarre location other than /Users thanks to their IT department. Strangely enough, I just realized that ~ works in Finder but $HOME doesn't. 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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