calvin200001 Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 i wanted to post this here and get this sticky goin again. this is what beatbug found on imogen heap. Thanks beatbug! OK Calvin - here ya go. Sorry it took so long. This is from Remix Mag: Heap’s multifaceted personality permeates Speak for Yourself in delicate piano melodies and lush electronic textures. Containing only her vocoded voice, “Hide and Seek” is an unlikely first single born in a flash of inspiration. “My favorite computer blew up on me,” Heap explains. “But I didn’t want to leave the studio without having done anything that day. I saw the [DigTech Vocalist Workstation] on a shelf and just plugged it into my little 4-track MiniDisc with my mic and my keyboard and pressed Record. “The First thing that I sang was those first few lines, “Where are we? What the hell is going on?” I set the vocalist to a four-note polyphony, so even if I play 10 notes on the keyboard, it will only choose four of them. It’s quite nicely surprising when it comes back with a strange combination. When it gets really high in the second chorus, that’s a result of it choosing higher rather that low notes, so I ended up going even higher to compensate, above the chord. I recorded it in, like, four-and-a-half minutes, and it ended up on the album in exactly the structure of how it came out of me then. I love it because it doesn’t feel like my song. It just came out of nowhere, and I’m not questioning that one at all.” Post any other artist or song questions here if you want to keep this thread alive. (great thread) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Hey, good idea to keep this thread up and running. I have been reading a lot about this chorusing effect that they manage to get, and it is the result of some very careful eqing to get the voices to sound similar but just subtly different enough to create a very tight replication of what was sung before but allowing each part to poke its way through. I wish I had the time to have a go at this at the moment. It's not only on Flloyd, but is part of their trademark sound. I imagine that now this kind of thing is much more easily had with some something like VocAlign and some eq, but back then, it must have taken them quite some time! Best, L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majool Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 heard imogen heap is all melodyne. check it out, gotta be the coolest and best sounding tuning software out there, hands down. get the demo, but be prepared to be hooked and broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin200001 Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 good thoughts. ill have to check it out. How do you like the demo>? I cant seem to figure out how to rewire it or use it as a plugin ...(melodyne) but anyways, i will keep trying, maybe it can only be used as a standalone. What are your favorite things about this product? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flunki Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Ok, here's my question: How did Faithless create that extremely clear sounding voice in the Rap-part of "She's my baby" (on the album Sunday 8pm). It's a bit hard to describe, but it's like you can hear every movement in the vocal chords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arifd Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Man, Da Rude's on this forum!?!? Sweet!!!! Do you have a link to the faithless song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flunki Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 All I can offer you is a link to the iTunes Store. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=33305037&s=143443&i=33304989 Luckily, the 30sec sample contains exactly the right part Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Flunki, that sounds like a good condenser mic through an expensive preamp and an expensive EQ... and also singing right on the mic. Now how do I go back to the US store in iTunes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin200001 Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 this should take you back to the american store David. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewMovie?id=188765150&s=143441&v0=NVS_100606> I actually helped you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Ha thanks! I just figured there's a little menu to choose your country at the very bottom of the store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arifd Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Yes, that is the sound of money. Can only be achieved with pristine equipment used by an engineer who really know's what he's doing. You may get the balance all nice in the EQ, and if you're really good, live in a world without harshness on your cheaper chineese factory built, imitation mics but you'll never get that level of clarity and crystal clear sibilance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vankarius Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Ok, I have one...It's about chorusing vocals. There's a particular sound that is on most of Pink Floyd and also Dire Straits which I don't think is an effects unit, yet the chorusing is sooo tight and equally has quite a particular sound. Maybe it's just lots and lots of takes all in absolute perfect timing with eachother. I imagine this takes a fair while, but I guess for albums like those they had the budget to spend a long time in the studio! You can hear it quite clearly - it has a very unique sound. Maybe it's the same take layered and jostled around by a few miliseconds, but again, it doesn't really sound like it to me. Anyway, probably it's a very simple answer, but if anyone has any ideas... It's something I would like to try, but can't quite get it. Best, L Eventide Pitch shifter...or...Roland Dimension-D maybe... Maybe you should look into some aticles by Alan Parons who was engineering pink floyd at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vankarius Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hi all, Can you tell me which instrument to use in order to make the drum sound in the song 'sandstorm'. Its the part where the song dropsdown and from where the sustained drums come in!!!??? Thanks Alan Those drums are from a very well known sample cd! I believe it's from 800 pro fx but I'm not sure, I've used those same drums in the past. Drop me an email: vank@vidage.com and I'll send you the sample! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flunki Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Thanks guys. And keep this interesting thread up, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abnorml_sound Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Song: Like A Pen Artist: The Knife Album: Silent Shout Download Snippit Here iTunes Link Here note: iTunes preview does not contain the part of song of interest This is the intro of the song - and as is pretty dope if you ask me... now, how are they creating that interesting effect on the snaps? my guess is some type of time-stretching algorithm. i don't think the EXS-24 can do this. any clues? this is a fun game however, it brings up some interesting legal issues especially if the song is not freely available, or the part of the song of interest is not the part encoded on itunes - as is the case with my chosen one. though, i would imagine, any artist not on a major label would welcome the publicity of these types of games as it may very well lead to purchases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arifd Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 If the bit your talking about is the bit i'm explaining. it sounds like they have taken a sample of a click, put it on loop and are simply modulating the loop speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Hi. Same kind of effect can be achieved by modulating a slapback delays delay time with an LFO. It's bit hard with Logic's plug-ins but not impossible. Below is something like it done with EXS24. You need to choose and interesting looped sample to make it work. i P.S. I intentionally didn't send this as a ready made downloadable preset because this way you learn how those parameters affect the sound when you dial them in one by one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Stone Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Analyze thisI just thought it would be a neat idea for everyone if you have a song that you heard somewhere and you wanted to know how they did that... this would be a great place to talk about it. I dont think we can but it would be nice to post the mp3s on the site to listen. (what do you think David?) First song: Song: Session Artist: Linkin Park Album: Matrix reloaded soundtrack questions: How did they make those drums do that? what are all if any effects that you hear there? Do you know how to reproduce that? Please reply and post more songs like i am and lets fill this sticky up with comments!! I didn't buy the song. Just checked out 30 seconds on iTunes Music Store™ So - for awesome studdering effects, check out the free "Buffer Override" plug-in:http://destroyfx.smartelectronix.com/audiounits.html with some automation and a bit of experimentation, you can create completely mental modulations on the drums. Actually, thinking about it, LiveCut is even better and also a bit easier to get the results you want. http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/2005/07/livecut.php Both these plug-ins are free. If you want a totally amazing drum instrument which also has similar features built-in, try Spectrasonics Stylus RMX. When this was released 2 years ago, it was my favorite plug-in of 2004. Sells for about $299. Bring on more examples! I think that many of the most innovative "tricks" are just good programming and not any one effect. Its hard to describe how to program certain types of tricks because the best tricks are so context-specific. b-stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin200001 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 THANKS BRO! Great find. I really appreciate everyone's help on this. Let;s keep this thread going strong. Great work everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin200001 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 any new song theories or cool effects you figured out that other people are using in the industry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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