ninox_rufa Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) Anyone know why fader data (when you grab a fader with the mouse and move it) gets recorded (when record is on) into a midi region. I don't understand why it should happen even when a fader is NOT connected to the seq input. More importantly anyone know how to stop it? I vaguely remember seeing this problem before and figuring out a solution but I could be wrong. I'm using a meta fader to alter the parameter of a transformer which has midi flowing through it. I'm recording the result to a midi track. Problem is I can't stop the meta messages also being recorded even if I block them with another transformer in the signal path. Edited to indicate solved. Edited November 21, 2012 by ninox_rufa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Anyone know why fader data (when you grab a fader with the mouse and move it) gets recorded (when record is on) into a midi region. I don't understand why it should happen even when a fader is NOT connected to the seq input. That's just the way it is: You don’t need any special cabling to record the data generated by a fader. All data generated by faders is recorded on the selected track when Logic Pro is in record or record/pause mode. Maybe there's a way to work around this... J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 To clarify your situation... When you say you're recording the result to a MIDI track, does that mean you're recording the MIDI (as processed through the transformer) onto that track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The fader's output won't be recorded to the track if you remote control it (with a MIDI controller). If you're using the SUM port you'll have to filter whichever MIDI data you're using to control the fader. If you have several MIDI controllers, you could choose one to serve a remote controller and just make a direct connection from its port in the physical input object straight to the fader. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I'm curious to know how the modified MIDI data is getting recorded to the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Anyone know why fader data (when you grab a fader with the mouse and move it) gets recorded (when record is on) into a midi region. I don't understand why it should happen even when a fader is NOT connected to the seq input. The only situation I can think of that will record a fader's movements without connecting that fader into the sequencer input is when that fader is assigned to a record enabled track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The only situation I can think of that will record a fader's movements without connecting that fader into the sequencer input is when that fader is assigned to a record enabled track. But David...if you create a fader object, press record, and move the fader with a mouse, the data will be recorded to the currently selected track. No cables, no track assignment. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 "Recording and Playback of Fader Movements As with the channel strips in the Mixer, you can record fader object movements to tracks, and play them back. Recording Fader Movements You don’t need any special cabling to record the data generated by a fader. All data generated by faders is recorded on the selected track when Logic Pro is in record or record/pause mode." So... does the fader movement get recorded outside of these conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 But David...if you create a fader object, press record, and move the fader with a mouse, the data will be recorded to the currently selected track. No cables, no track assignment. Wow you're right! I didn't know that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 David, When you find out that you don't know something about Logic, does a giant hand come down from the heavens and smack you upside the head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Hahaha I don't know but it certainly feels like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Logic Pro has about 790.000.000 bytes. That's about 400,000 bookpages. I'm not surprised that David still encounters new things every other blue moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninox_rufa Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 To clarify your situation... When you say you're recording the result to a MIDI track, does that mean you're recording the MIDI (as processed through the transformer) onto that track? Yep. The fader's output won't be recorded to the track if you remote control it (with a MIDI controller). Ah yes! I have experienced this before. Reason I found a solution in the past is I used a midi controller. Away from home the other day and didn't have one. I was using environment faders to send messages I would usually send with a controller. Problem solved...er... remembered. Thanks guys. It was worth it just to teach David a lesson anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 To clarify your situation... When you say you're recording the result to a MIDI track, does that mean you're recording the MIDI (as processed through the transformer) onto that track? Yep. So you're looping the part back into Logic and recording it on a new track? Just curious as to how you're doing this. It was worth it just to teach David a lesson anyway Always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninox_rufa Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 So you're looping the part back into Logic and recording it on a new track? Just curious as to how you're doing this. Track 1 has a midi region (just notes) on it. It's cabled to transformers which add CC data according the notes received (e.g. each note triggers a random pan value). The transformers are cabled to the Seq Input. So any midi track that is record enabled in the Arrange will record the midi notes plus the data to new region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtees Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 The only situation I can think of that will record a fader's movements without connecting that fader into the sequencer input is when that fader is assigned to a record enabled track. But David...if you create a fader object, press record, and move the fader with a mouse, the data will be recorded to the currently selected track. No cables, no track assignment. J. Is this a feature or a bug? It appears to be more annoying than useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It's by design, according to te manual. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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