General Audio Storage Problems

I've been producing/writing for 30 years. I updated my equipment a couple of years ago and have got into some bad habits. I think the jump from Logic 7 to 10 confused me. I'd always set audio record paths and kept things tidy in folders. This new set up didn't seem to offer the same options. Instead of saving things within the audio settings they suggested I made folders on the desk top. I now have no idea where audio is stored and a couple of projects wont load. I'm not particularly tech savvy and used to rely on people around the studio to help. Not in studio anymore.

One thing you can try is top menu: Logic - Project Management - Consolidate.

Check the audio files option and uncheck the rest.

Do you mean within a particular song that hasn't loaded up properly or generally.

Doing it within the songs that aren't loading just gets similar messages: file not found, not recognised, 8 bit not compatible. These are a variety of different songs from different eras. Some of which had been loading OK a month ago.

Do you mean within a particular song that hasn't loaded up properly or generally.

 

The projects that load with files missing.

 

not recognised, 8 bit not compatible

 

This can be from external HDs that are formatted in Windows formats like Fat32, ExFat and NTFS. Logic doesn't like those. Only Mac OSX Extended and APFS.

I've always used macs with Logic. These are just old projects, some from the same computer. Wasn't sure if it had something to do with things being automatically backed up in the cloud. Some things seemed to load after the files had been accessed from there.

I've always used macs with Logic

 

Maybe you didn't understand: External HDs can be formatted in other formats like Fat32, or ExFat. Logic doesn't like these formats for external HDs.

There's a lot I don't understand. Some of these don't need the external HDs and should have all the audio on the laptop. With my previous, barely powerful enough to run logic, laptop and all previous computers I never had the issue you're talking about.

Do you have any external drives connected to your Mac, or have you connected external drives to your Mac, whether or not you used them for these specific projects?

I use them but have only used them on this new computer as back up. I have never used them to exclusively store projects. It's yet more I don't understand. They seem to back up everything automatically whereas in the past I would copy specific folders on to the older ones. I seem to remember always having to format for mac before being able to use.

It's yet more I don't understand.

I recommend you don't try to understand just yet. Troubleshooting is basically a two step process:

1. Gather information.

2. Come to a conclusion.

 

In your case we're still at the #1 stage and you can't jump to the #2 stage this early.

 

Now select each external drive you have connected to your Mac and check is current format using Disk Utility, tell us how each one of them is formatted?

Thank you for your patience David and let me test it further: where and when do I find disc utility?

where and when do I find disc utility?

 

Macintosh HD/Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility

Thank you for your patience David and let me test it further: where and when do I find disc utility?

Did you find it?

OK I'm in Disk Utility. I can't see any listing about format. It has Smart status and co the next page has mount point etc.

I can't see any listing about format

 

Is this formatting still relevant now we've discovered how full my disc is? In the other Crashing thread Triplet said

"Get yourself an external usb 3.0 SSD and do a Save As with Include Audio Files of every project you have. Should streamline a bunch."

I do have a Lacie and a Seagate both a Tb each. I've been plugging the Lacie in and it seems to automatically back up the whole computer.

Should I do a specific music audio back up and how would I?

Is this formatting still relevant now we've discovered how full my disc is?

Yes, it is highly relevant.

It is like the photo above APFS

It is like the photo above APFS

Make sure you check the format for all of the drives you have connected to your Mac.

OK the Lacie says USB external physical volume

The Seagate is the same and there's a tiny sim card style memory card stuck in the Levono dongle that I sometimes forget is there which is also the same.

OK the Lacie says USB external physical volume

At the top of the Disk Utility window, the format should be indicated next to the large drive icon and name.

I can't see any listing about format

 

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Could you please give me an example or a screenshot. I was going on this earlier one

Could you please give me an example or a screenshot. I was going on this earlier one

Sure, here's an example:

 

They all appear to be "Master Boot Record"

They all appear to be "Master Boot Record"

Then look no further, that is the issue that creates 8 bit audio files. You need all disks used by your Logic Mac to always be in MacOS Externded or APFS, always.

 

Here's a detailed account of this issue and how to repair affected files: https://www.davehofmann.de/when-logic-destroys-your-audio-files/

OK. This is a out of my depth. I've gone to the Git Hub site with Dave Hofmann's files. I've signed up to Git Hub , downloaded Git Hub desk top, downloaded his Wave Recovery Zip then I can't see anything within that to click on as a program.

OK. I'm methodically going through the Dave Hoffman page. I see there are other people struggling with the complexity like me.

OK. I'm methodically going through the Dave Hoffman page. I see there are other people struggling with the complexity like me.

Maybe it's time to ask for help to someone willing to do some consulting work for you? I personally don't have any availability right now but you could ask Christian: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=33592