Rockdude9k Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Hey everyone, long time. So I was wondering if its possible to run Logic on one computer (lets call it "A") and pipe the audio over LAN to a second computer (computer "B") running a different sequencer? Its for a client that doesn't use logic anymore on his main sequencer but still has a bunch of EXS channel strips on his older computer. The idea is the run Logic as a sample host, pipe midi over LAN to it which triggers the instrument and the audio output goes over LAN and back into the main sequencer on computer "B". Any ideas? Yes, we could do it over ADAT or MADI with two audio interfaces but the client would prefer to do it without buying anymore hardware interfaces. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I've never used LAN, but you can use any Core Audio drivers with Logic, so assuming your device has a core audio driver then you can use it with Logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockdude9k Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Hmm. When you say device, I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe if I explain a bit more that will help. I want to take a Mac Mini, run Logic on it. Then connect a Ethernet cable from it to a Mac Pro and pipe the audio from Logic to the Mac Pro over the ethernet cable. Has anyone been able to do this? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Ohhhh LAN. Sorry for some reason I thought you meant mLAN. . . I've set up MIDI over LAN, but never audio. I'm not sure of any solutions for that, although I would be interested to hear if there are any. As you, I've used ADAT or MADI protocols to route audio from one machine to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosUnderground Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 You could run the MacMini's audio out its headphone out to you're interface and record the audio. Not the best but, no money involved. Well, maybe $20 for the right cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockdude9k Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Hi Carlos, yes thats an option but unfortunately a low quality one. The reason we don't want to buy a new audio interface isn't because of money its because we are trying to get rid of aggregate devices. Which is with their setup the only way to incorporate a new interface. This solution needs to be 110% professional, stable and with pristine audio. Thanks for the idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockdude9k Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Hi David, I think I found a solution. Check out... http://www.kvraudio.com/product/wormhole_by_plasq If you download it, and read the included manual it sounds pretty sweet. I'm gonna test it out on my home rig before installing on the clients. Have you ever used this before? The only real question is how many tracks and how stable it is. Also audio quality, can't have any compression going on within the data packets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Never used WormHole before. I've also done a bit of research... found one person saying they'd done it using Jack. There's also SoundFly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Does it have to be done via a network situation? If so, how far apart are the machines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockdude9k Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Hey ski, long time. Yes ideally it has to be done over a network. And the distance is minimal 3 feet, the computers are right next to each other in a rack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockdude9k Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Cool David, I'll check those out and let you know what I find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockdude9k Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Actually I've used Jack before and it give me the shutters. Totally buggy and not pro. But that was a long time ago. I'll check out the other options. Hopefully wormhole does the trick. Unfortunately VEP doesn't do this. It comes really close but can only route back to the host computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Hey ski, long time. Yes ideally it has to be done over a network. And the distance is minimal 3 feet, the computers are right next to each other in a rack. Definitely been a while! Thinking that the easiest route for MIDI would be... MIDI! If there's a MIDI interface on both computers, you could simply string an in/out connection between them. And if you had multiple free ports on the interfaces, Logic could be easily set up to act as a multi-timbral slave with separate banks of 16 channels each. Maybe not as high-tech as mLAN, but perhaps with fewer headaches. Audio... again, I'm thinking about running cables, whether they be optical or straight-up audio cables from outputs of the Logic computer's interface to free optical or straight-up audio inputs on the main computer's interface. And if you were to use direct monitoring on the main computer's interface you wouldn't induce any buffer latency into the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Yet another option... how about porting the EXS instruments over to Kontakt? Then you can run those sound directly from the main computer, no fussing with LAN, cables, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 MIDI over LAN is easy and reliable, I would certainly recommend it over using MIDI interfaces. I also believe it's a faster protocol (although I'm not 100% sure). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 MIDI over LAN is easy and reliable, I would certainly recommend it over using MIDI interfaces. Cool. Which one do you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Having an MH box, can't it be done via the Mio Console? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 MIDI over LAN is easy and reliable, I would certainly recommend it over using MIDI interfaces. Cool. Which one do you recommend? I've used MOLcp successfully. I believe you can also do it from Audio MIDI Setup with the "Network" device - I think I tried it once but didn't find it very practical. Having an MH box, can't it be done via the Mio Console? No. MIO Console is just the software controlling your MH box, that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeboxterry Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Hey everyone, long time. So I was wondering if its possible to run Logic on one computer (lets call it "A") and pipe the audio over LAN to a second computer (computer "B") running a different sequencer? Its for a client that doesn't use logic anymore on his main sequencer but still has a bunch of EXS channel strips on his older computer. The idea is the run Logic as a sample host, pipe midi over LAN to it which triggers the instrument and the audio output goes over LAN and back into the main sequencer on computer "B". Any ideas? Yes, we could do it over ADAT or MADI with two audio interfaces but the client would prefer to do it without buying anymore hardware interfaces. Thanks in advance! Unless Wormhole's site has outdated info - it looks like the code is Universal binary. Wouldn't that be a problem with your OS X 10.7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockdude9k Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Hey guys, thanks for all the input. In a normal world I would definitely agree with you that getting a MADI box or an ADAT rig is the way to go. However in our situation we are currently doing this and thus we have to use an aggregate device which is causing problems. The other thing is we run the whole studio off of VEP which is midi and audio over LAN. So there has to be a way to do this. Here is an article I just found that mentions wormhole. I still haven't had a chance to try it out yet but it seems promising. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar07/articles/dpworkshop_0307.htm http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr07/articles/dpworkshop_0407.htm Posting on my iPhone so excuse grammar please. Looking for to figuring this out. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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