Sascha Franck

And fwiw, it's possible since decades - but only in case you don't need automatic track management and can get along with the looks of the environment (which is now more hidden than ever before).

Yeah, I remember reading about it already. Was just using the term "programmed" because, well, it's MIDI - and so that came out of my fingers. Exactly. I think it's at least sort of well defined, but it's still pretty blurred because things such as Drummer (which certainly is pretty far from AI as it doesn't generate any grooves on its own) may appear as AI to some.

Drummer certainly isn't AI at all. It's a very, very cleverly implemented huge amount of pretty decently programmed MIDI files (in fact, for some styles, they might be among the best you may find). The "follow" function is nothing exactly special, either (it exists in Jamstix as well), it's just about the kick and (very occasionally, from what it seems) snare patterns, so that's pretty easy to do (the rule being: "analyse audio for accents, in case they're around beats 1+3, place the kick accordingly"). Just so that nobody gets me wrong, they have done an amazing job with Drummer (given that you can deal with things you don't roll on your own), IMO it beats pretty much any pattern based drum player out there in some styles (certainly can't do metal and what not, but the DKD kits aren't exactly suited for that, either). But none of that makes it AI.

Just that they can't (obviously). I really love digital technology, I sometimes also love riding on the edge of it. In addition, even as a guitarist, I never aquired a sense for "mojo", analog snobbery or whatever it might be. So replacing analog with digital not only isn't new to me but even appealing (I'm using amp modeling for my live purposes since almost two decades by now, pretty much exclusively since around 8). But the gist of that video is "any analog music device can be replaced by something digital and we've managed to squeeze it into this thinner than ever device". It's likely even meant to be somewhat funny or whatever. But it isn't. Not only because it's completely wrong but even because there's some sort of belief into that behind it. "We have our new session players, why would you keep that dusty piano in your home at all? And why even bother to learn playing it?" As much as a logical (hah, there, I said "logic"al - I'm such a funny, funny person) thing all this might be, as much as I even may use it myself, it is my firm belief that AI was/is the worst to ever happen to music. Oh yes, it could be super useful in some areas, such as in education - but as it's mainly used for other things, I just loathe it. And a company praising it by even going beyond what's actually possible (an iPad isn't a replacement for an acoustic guitar just yet), regardless whether it's meant to be funny, futuristic or whatever, doesn't earn my respect. Add to this it's just cheap and tasteless by advertising video standards.

Doesn't make it much better.

"Let's get rid of all that analog nonsense once and forever and smash it to bits!"

Fwiw, when did the scrollwheel stopped working for adjustments in the inspector's dual channel strip? Used to work in the entire mixer (which was excellent), then didn't work at all for some versions and has at least been working in the dual channel strip in version 10.5.1 (which is the latest I had installed on the old Mac Pro). How comes they're messing around with this so often? Or am I missing any preference?

Happily so.

Well, you were trying to explain that Apple wants to sell hardware. Which isn't exactly about Logic 11 to start with, either.

See, not one of the top 10 in the stock market rankings is known for "fair" business behaviour. And fwiw, obviously Microsoft (current #1) is no better at all. I just despise all of these companies and pretty much don't need any explanation why they're doing things this or that way, because at the end of the day, sheer greed is always one of the reasons. And greed can never be justified. Hasn't got anything with pro/contra capitalism, btw.

You were trying to get through that they want to sell hardware and make money. I was trying to get through that they're selling hardware to earn obscene amounts of money, too. Which is always suspicious.

Apple is, at the end of the day, a corporation constantly being among the top 5 of the stock market since several years. That alone should be good enough to raise a lot of possibly controverse thoughts. And yes, I *am* a sort of old hippie, but that's got not much to do with it. Whenever there's a documentation about planned obsolescence, rest assured, Apple will be mentioned.

I'm afraid you'll be out of luck.

That's too easy as an explanation. "We can do whatever we feel like as each of our customers will have different wishes anyway". No. There's some pretty well established things in the world of "flagship DAWs" and it's possibly a decent idea to have a good amount of them covered. And as these have been mentioned in this thread: Region gain handles and proper time stretching for example. They're pretty much kind of an "industry standard" by now. Same goes for a half decent sample editor, especially when you stopped developing what you have 20 years ago already. Etc. Similar things might be true for, say, ARA integration. Yes, I perfectly understand why it's not working in silicon-native mode anymore, but in case it's not, 3,5 years should be a good enough amount of time to adress the issue. Ideally, they would've thought this through before changing the way plugins are called up. Apparently, that just didn't happen. All of this isn't exactly about new features (for instance, region gain handles aren't exactly a new feature, just another way to present what's already there), same with my ongoing complaints about them to completely break an entire section of zooming functionality. Hence, while nobody exactly minds whatever new things they're throwing at us, especially among longstanding Logic users, there seem to be quite some people wishing for a really intense housekeeping session. Personally, I'd happily pay for an upgrade just adressing all these issues.

Do as always: Copy the Logic Pro file to another place (maybe even zip it up so macOS has no chance to accidentally detect it) and perform the update. In case 11 is no good, move the old version back.