lupstan Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I can't get any sustain in Logic pro x. I'm using a M-Audio sp-2 pedal and Akai MPK88 keyboard with logic pro x 10.2.4 I have a software instrument track opened and a piano sound selected. In Logic's list of events, there are values recorded (numbers around 64 and 0) when I press on the pedal, but I don't hear it, there is no sustain. I've tried to erase the cs file, it didn't work. Does anyone know what I should do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistol-pete-lopez Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Try this: hold down pedal while powering down keyboard. power up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupstan Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 I can see the values are recorded, I can even see them on the piano roll at the bottom, but I don't hear any sustain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Does the software instrument patch you are playing is set to respond to cc#64 as sustain? Have you tried with a different software instrument? Did you program in Logic (via either mapping it as a screen Smart Control or as a MIDI controller assignment) to use the sp-2 sustain pedal as a controller? In which case, bypassing all controllers assignment via Logic Pro > Preferences > Control Surfaces > Bypass all Control Surfaces could solve temporarely your issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupstan Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 I've tried different instrument patches from different softwares. I don't know if they are set to respond to cc64 for sustain (how would I check that?), all I know is everyone else just plugs the pedal in the keyboard and yay, it works. But not for me. My keyboard is connected to computer through a USB cable, not a midi cable. I don't know if that could be the problem. The bypass f all control surface didn't work. But thank you anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 ...In Logic's list of events, there are values recorded (numbers around 64 and 0)... CC64 value 0 is sustain off, can you see any cc64 events with higher values ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfy Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 It looks like you can edit how the footswitch inputs behave on the Akai keyboard (page 30 of manual). Maybe something got changed in there and it’s not sending out the correct data. I have the SP2 (albeit not with an Akai keyboard) and all you should see in Logic is a value of 0 (off/pedal up) and 127 (on/pedal down) on CC64, nothing in between. There’s also a polarity switch on the bottom of the SP2 to flip its behaviour. Maybe that is set incorrectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupstan Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 The pedal works when it is plugged in foot switch 1, but it makes a noise when I press it down. Like a faint hi-hat sound. Unfortunately, we hear this sound in the recording. Thank you for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfy Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 When you say "Unfortunately, we hear this sound in the recording” what do you mean? Are you recording audio or MIDI? Did you check that the footswitch inputs were set up correctly on the Akai? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupstan Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 I'm recording midi. Virtual instruments. The setup of the akai seems ok, set to 064. Actually, the sound is more metallic than a hi-hat... I would not mind a mechanical sound coming from the pedal itself, but the thing is, it resonates in the system and is recorded with the piano sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avanti Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Are you using a virtual piano instrument? Many of them include pedal noise that you can turn down or off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I'm recording midi. Virtual instruments. The setup of the akai seems ok, set to 064. Actually, the sound is more metallic than a hi-hat... I would not mind a mechanical sound coming from the pedal itself, but the thing is, it resonates in the system and is recorded with the piano sound. When you record MIDI, no "sound", or audio, is recorded. So this unwanted sound must be generated by your software instrument, as Avanti says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfy Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I think Avanti read my mind. That being said, does the pedal now create sustain at least correctly, seeing as that was the original problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barenkao Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Try this: hold down pedal while powering down keyboard. power up again made an account just to say thank you, this really helped (3 years later)!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Ruest Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) i have a new keyboard M audio hammer 88 , and a new sustain pedal , i have the yamaha sustain pedal and the donner with polarity switch . still wont work . Any help will be appreciated , i talk to friends who installed logic and yay sustain works ..so they cant help at all. Edited February 22, 2021 by Claude Ruest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 i have a new keybopard and a new sustain pedal , i have the yamaha sustain pedal and the donner with polarity switch .still wont work . Install Snoize's MIDI Monitor to double-check that your Mac is actually receiving sustain data when pressing on the pedal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Ruest Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 is that in apple store? where do i get it? ok installing. should have said im going throught a focusrite 4i4 . when installing snoize i got a message that it doesnt connect to its midi and i need to unistall old 32 bits. working that ill update again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Great, sounds like you're onto something. Let us know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Ruest Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 ok i had to leave and work some music..im back on my problem found how to use snoizes ..if i play notes and use the pedal it is there in the test i see sustain events. so the 32bits files are not an issue. that's a start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Ok now in Logic choose Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Bypass All Control Surfaces. Does that make the sustain pedal work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Ruest Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 back on the job for the night ..checking .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 ... any luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Ruest Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Hi again David. I am kind of lost in which way to get back exactly on my thread. I thought i had updated . Its working well thank you for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoPpUnKbOy Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 ... any luck? Hey, David! I've tried the suggestions above & am still having issues with the sustain pedal (M-Audio SP-2). The sustain seems to work intermittently & this has been a problem for a while that I'm just now taking time to fix. See the link for screenshots. https://imgur.com/a/o3MaDBk System details: Mid-2015 MacBook Pro, 10.12.6 macOS Logic Pro X 10.4.4 Studiologic SL88|Studio MIDI controller The controller is connected to my computer via USB. I try unplugging things & restarting the computer, trying different USB cables, bypassing all control surfaces, unplugging the pedal, making sure the switch is properly flipped, etc. & still have issues... In my Logic session, you can see that I have sustain data recorded (from last night). It sounded fine last night too. Today, the sustain doesn't seem to be working at all. I downloaded "MIDI monitor" & played a note. No data shows when I push down the pedal controller - only when I play the keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoPpUnKbOy Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 ... any luck? UPDATE: just tested the same SP-2 pedal with my friend's M-Audio Keystation 88es (which is what I recorded piano on last night) & the sustain works fine. See link for picture of sustain data in "MIDI monitor". Do you think it's some strange compatibility glitch with the Studiologic or something weird with the pedal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Looks like your keyboard is sending double notes, on both channel 1 & 2, this could be contributing to your problem, so try to find the setting on the keyboard that stops that behavior... If you don't see the sustain messages in midi monitor when you press the pedal, it simply means that your keyboard stopped sending any, so you probably changed something on the 88es... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoPpUnKbOy Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Looks like your keyboard is sending double notes, on both channel 1 & 2, this could be contributing to your problem, so try to find the setting on the keyboard that stops that behavior... If you don't see the sustain messages in midi monitor when you press the pedal, it simply means that your keyboard stopped sending any, so you probably changed something on the 88es... The not doubling happens with both the 88es & the SL88. There aren't any settings to change on the M-Audio 88es as it's a simple controller... https://m-audio.com/products/view/keystation-88es Haven't adjusted anything on the SL88 either, btw. I've tried different sustain pedals. There must be something wrong with Logic Pro X I'm thinking. Maybe just a strange glitch. I'll check for an update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 ...The note doubling happens with both the 88es & the SL88.... Are you absolutely sure of that ? Could it be that your screenshot shows a recording in Logic using the pedal on the es88, and a screenshot of midi monitor using the sl88 ? I highly suspect that this is a setting needed to be adjusted in the sl88... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipfunk Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Hi guys. I've noticed I'dont have my sustain pedal working all of a sudden as well. I have a Keystation61 and an Apex sustain pedal. I downloaded Snoize's MIDI Monitor and when I press the pedal I get a reading of 127 but Logic doesnt recognize any signal from the pedal. Clearly I've screwed something up yet as usual I know not what. Any help would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Try bypassing all controllers to check if that solves your issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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