Trautman Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Hi I'm quantising some multi-tracked drums, and I want to mostly preserve the drummers feel, and just tighten up the odd bit here and there. How I would normally do this is: .group the drums (quantise lock etc) .choose which mic to use as my master- in this case I have a ball and biscuit mono kit mic which has loads of kick and snare and super sharp transients, so I'm slaving everything else to that. .hard quantise to find the right swing amount (in this case 16 swing E) .adjust the q range to tell logic to leave transients that are close enough alone ( in this case 1/192) .back off the Q strength until it feels tight enough but still natural Its all working fine until the last step- once i back the strength off its going nuts and applying MORE swing... not sure what I'm doing wrong, as this method has always worked for me before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Have you considered Groove Track Quantization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trautman Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 Hi no, I’ve never used groove tracks- been doing it this way for years and never encountered this issue before. I’ve always felt it was the most musical way to approach it. Is groove tracks a good option for multi mic source material? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I believe the best way to find out would be to try it… And normally that function isn’t destructive, meaning it simply reverts back to its original state when disabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trautman Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 Ok thanks I’ll give it a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) I noticed in your signature that you are using a pretty old Logic version… Lots of improvements and corrections were implemented since v. 10.1.1… Edited June 16, 2022 by Atlas007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trautman Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 On reading the link it seems that groove tracks are for getting other tracks to follow the groove of a designated track? im needing to slightly tighten up 12 tracks of phase-locked drum mics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trautman Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 Just now, Atlas007 said: I noticed in your signature that you are using a pretty old Logic version… No sorry I just haven’t changed that, I’m on the latest version but hadn’t posted on here for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) On 6/16/2022 at 5:30 PM, Trautman said: On reading the link it seems that groove tracks are for getting other tracks to follow the groove of a designated track? im needing to slightly tighten up 12 tracks of phase-locked drum mics! Did you try it anyway? Edited June 18, 2022 by Atlas007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveLpx1 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Another alternative solution might be Smart Tempo...hth.../s~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 10:59 PM, Trautman said: once i back the strength off its going nuts and applying MORE swing... not sure what I'm doing wrong, as this method has always worked for me before? I was able to reproduce this behavior. It does look like a bug. With MIDI regions it behaves as expected, meaning that if I lower Q-strength then the notes move from the groove template selected in the Quantize parameter to their original position, but with audio it just gives it more swing to the point where hits are not at all close the original position with Q-strength of zero. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRobinson Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Well, write up that bug report and send it in to Apple Support! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trautman Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 6/19/2022 at 10:50 PM, David Nahmani said: I was able to reproduce this behavior. It does look like a bug. With MIDI regions it behaves as expected, meaning that if I lower Q-strength then the notes move from the groove template selected in the Quantize parameter to their original position, but with audio it just gives it more swing to the point where hits are not at all close the original position with Q-strength of zero. thanks David. At least I'm not going mad! any thoughts as to a workaround? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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