NoPro Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Does anyone know how the Beatles got those bell like tones from their guitars on the second side of abbey road ? I’ve never heard anything quite like it ….something like maybe a Leslie cabinet but there’s something else ??? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Could post a snippet of that or a link to same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 Here’s 1:10 seconds in ….same sound im referencing to 1:10 seconds in….it’s not abbey road but it’s similar … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 Now I can’t find the exact song on side 2 of abbey road (the guitar like bell sound I’m referring to )but I know it’s on there….I’ll keep trying to find the song …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 I believe a Leslie 147RV cabinet was used on abbey road and there’s bits and pieces of lead guitars that sound more bell like at times than other times… the Elton John song I posted here for sure has the same sound just decades later … even if I find out what guitars were used specifically there’s so many variables …consoles , preamps , amps etc….playing style etc … I know there’s a beatle bible that lists specific equipment but ….wow what clean tones ….no pedals or plugins back then … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumblepig Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I'm curious if they used ADT on the guitars, though Leslie is my other guess... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 If anyone can replicate the sound or close to it …I’d be grateful …! The end of golden slumbers has alot of the guitar tones….. more and more I think it’s George through a Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 ok here we go at 1:32 secs…..bell like guitars…..sounds like two guitars playing the same part with Leslie cabs? Duh could it be actual bells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) To me that sounds more like an Eq job... with some narrow chorusing perhaps... Edited July 19, 2023 by Atlas007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 Rarely reproduced …wonder why …such a cool tone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 tubular bells AND guitar together 👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumblepig Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 From Robbie McIntosh: "I think just John through the Leslie double tracked. They did that album on 8 track so that would be possible. He liked his blond Epiphone through the slow Leslie. Sun King is definitely that. Think “Dear Prudence” from the White Album. It’s really noticeable there. I worked with Donovan some years ago. He credits himself for showing John those finger picking patterns in Rishikesh. That’s what he told me anyway. It’s a pretty cool sound and quite possibly ADT was available, it’s just a slap back delay after all." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, fisherking said: tubular bells AND guitar together 👍 i might be wrong (i was, once before). that last phrase, with the slide on the guitar... no tubular bell i ever met could do that. so robbie mcintosh may be right. still, one could do a good emulation of that sound doubling a guitar with a tubular bell... 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumblepig Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, fisherking said: i might be wrong (i was, once before). that last phrase, with the slide on the guitar... no tubular bell i ever met could do that. so robbie mcintosh may be right. still, one could do a good emulation of that sound doubling a guitar with a tubular bell... 🤔 There are certainly tubular bells along with the guitars on "You Never Give Me Your Money," at least at the 1:32 spot etc... otherwise, I'm going with Leslie'd guitars for the other guitar sounds. I tried out a quickie guitar part in Logic swapping between Waves ADT and Logic's rotary speaker... ADT was much thicker and didn't sit with the Abbey Road vibe... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, grumblepig said: There are certainly tubular bells along with the guitars on "You Never Give Me Your Money," at least at the 1:32 spot etc... otherwise, I'm going with Leslie'd guitars for the other guitar sounds. I tried out a quickie guitar part in Logic swapping between Waves ADT and Logic's rotary speaker... ADT was much thicker and didn't sit with the Abbey Road vibe... That’s cool ….I’ll try some of logic rotary speaKer sims …. Use 2” tape , Rent out abbey road and grow my hair lol! No really that guitar sound is pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumblepig Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I have to admit I'm almost embarrassed not to have a more dialed-in answer. I've been a Beatles fiend my whole life... but I'm eternally naive about guitars. I've tracked lead guitar through a fully cranked AC30 at Abbey Road, but I wasn't the one moving dials and tweaking the tones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, grumblepig said: There are certainly tubular bells along with the guitars on "You Never Give Me Your Money," at least at the 1:32 spot etc. that's what i thought... at first. but listen to the end of the phrase, where the note is bent. it's the same tonality as the notes before it. so am now convinced there are NOT tubular bells there... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumblepig Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, fisherking said: that's what i thought... at first. but listen to the end of the phrase, where the note is bent. it's the same tonality as the notes before it. so am now convinced there are NOT tubular bells there... The recording sessions book lists "chimes," which I'm taking to mean tubular bells. The bells are doubling the Leslie'd guitar and the guitar carries on the line past where the bells/chimes end... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, grumblepig said: The recording sessions book lists "chimes," which I'm taking to mean tubular bells. The bells are doubling the Leslie'd guitar and the guitar carries on the line past where the bells/chimes end... didn't know there was a book! but nice that i was right in the first place. i will NEVER question myself, on anything... again 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, grumblepig said: I have to admit I'm almost embarrassed not to have a more dialed-in answer. I've been a Beatles fiend my whole life... but I'm eternally naive about guitars. I've tracked lead guitar through a fully cranked AC30 at Abbey Road, but I wasn't the one moving dials and tweaking the tones. Beatles fan here long time as well …wonder why I never thought about those guitar tones Until now … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, fisherking said: that's what i thought... at first. but listen to the end of the phrase, where the note is bent. it's the same tonality as the notes before it. so am now convinced there are NOT tubular bells there... Could it just be guitars and certain eq and preamps as mentioned before ? Sure sounds different than most clean guitar tones I’ve heard. That Elton John song has them also …Jeff Lynne probably knows ….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 Chimes hmmm yeah could be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRobinson Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 It's clear enough that the sound in "Magic Feeling" isn't actually a bell, because we hear it pitch-bend upward in the third occurrence. So it must be a guitar and interesting studio treatment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 57 minutes ago, MikeRobinson said: It's clear enough that the sound in "Magic Feeling" isn't actually a bell, because we hear it pitch-bend upward in the third occurrence. So it must be a guitar and interesting studio treatment. Could also be layered with slide at the same as the guitar picked notes are played. There’s definitely something extra cool about these Beatle guitar parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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