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Comparing Different VST Instruments/Chains with Midi


flasky1

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Hey,

 

was wondering if people had some ideas on how they efficiently compare multiple VST Patches and Plugin Chains for one track? in order to find one that fits a track best, without creating a big mess in the project with a lot of duplicated tracks with different chains, scattered all over the project.

 

Thank you

 

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Different folks have different ways they like to work.
While you can do what you want in Logic's patch browser(s)/library, you need to be methodical and work in a particular way.

Perhaps you might be a candidate for something like Patchwork?
Lots of folks love the workflow it affords/it better suits the way their brain processes stuff.
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_PatchWork/

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10 hours ago, Atlas007 said:

Have you tried browsing the Patches libraries?

That, of course, implies those patches pre-existence…

Selection-based processing might be another approach…

yeah i have tried it, but i find it's not flexible enough for me.

 

but thank you for your suggestion 🙂

9 hours ago, oscwilde said:

Different folks have different ways they like to work.
While you can do what you want in Logic's patch browser(s)/library, you need to be methodical and work in a particular way.

Perhaps you might be a candidate for something like Patchwork?
Lots of folks love the workflow it affords/it better suits the way their brain processes stuff.
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_PatchWork/

i have the free trial for patchwork, i'm gonna try it out. as i don't think Logic pro has a solution built into it.

maybe with some updates it will become more flexible.

 

thanks for your suggestion 🙂

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11 hours ago, flasky1 said:

yeah i have tried it, but i find it's not flexible enough for me.

Out of curiosity: what part of Patch’s library browsing (considering its merging options) is lacking flexibility in regard of your workflow?

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14 hours ago, Atlas007 said:

Out of curiosity: what part of Patch’s library browsing (considering its merging options) is lacking flexibility in regard of your workflow?

correct me if i'm wrong, every patch that i create and every time i edit it, it would have to be saved in order for me to alternate between them, for me personally that would be a lot of saved patches just for one track. so yes i could do it, but it's not really ideal.

i like the track alternatives method where you can switch between multiple midi or audio ideas, without needing to save and name every one.

if there was a track alternative solution to channel strips, i think that is what i'm thinking of when i say it being flexible.

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10 hours ago, flasky1 said:

correct me if i'm wrong, every patch that i create and every time i edit it, it would have to be saved in order for me to alternate between them, for me personally that would be a lot of saved patches just for one track. so yes i could do it, but it's not really ideal.

Indeed that may represent many saves, depending of your browsing intention. Personally, I create in the library a subfolder structure where are saved the interesting options pertaining to a specific project (subfolder being named after the project’s name).

The Patche Merging options makes it flexible to load only part of a given channelstrip Setting. For instance, one could keep the virtual instrument and switch the audio plugins to a new set, or vice versa. Same goes for the MIDI Fx, interchangeably. Very useful to easily experiment different sonic possibilities.

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8 hours ago, Atlas007 said:

Indeed that may represent many saves, depending of your browsing intention. Personally, I create in the library a subfolder structure where are saved the interesting options pertaining to a specific project (subfolder being named after the project’s name).

The Patche Merging options makes it flexible to load only part of a given channelstrip Setting. For instance, one could keep the virtual instrument and switch the audio plugins to a new set, or vice versa. Same goes for the MIDI Fx, interchangeably. Very useful to easily experiment different sonic possibilities.

Yes i suppose if you made an organised set of sub folders like you are doing, it would make things a lot easier. it's something i will experiment with.

 

Thank you for your help 🙂

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Just been doing some experimenting, sorry if i don't say the technical terms but is there a way that when i press "Save" to add the patch to the library, that it will open in the "sub-folder". because currently, i make an edit to a preset, then i want to save it. but it takes me to the "Parent Folder" then i have to click on all the sub-folders to get to the place i would like to save it. it would be good if it took me straight to that sub-folder. this is for presets that i have made little edits to that are already saved in the library and i just want to overwrite the current preset that is in the library

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23 hours ago, flasky1 said:

@Atlas007

Just been doing some experimenting, sorry if i don't say the technical terms but is there a way that when i press "Save" to add the patch to the library, that it will open in the "sub-folder". because currently, i make an edit to a preset, then i want to save it. but it takes me to the "Parent Folder" then i have to click on all the sub-folders to get to the place i would like to save it. it would be good if it took me straight to that sub-folder. this is for presets that i have made little edits to that are already saved in the library and i just want to overwrite the current preset that is in the library

You are right! One has to navigate every time to the desired saving location.

I recall now that I was sorting after the fact, directly from within the Finder. A little drag admitedly but not as bad as it might look once accustomed to it.

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