CH0B0 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) Recorded audio files disappear when I copy and paste with marquee tool. It happens regardless of whether I saved or not before using marquee tool. Sometimes Logic crashes when I do it. OS and Logic App are up to date. Edited March 10 by CH0B0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 44 minutes ago, CH0B0 said: Recorded audio files disappear when I copy and paste with marquee tool. Can you share a specific example so we can understand which audio file(s) disappear when you copy which? If you can, share that project on your screenshot, along with the exact steps to reproduce your issue, so that one us can give it a try? To share the project, use iCloud, or Google drive, or a free service like WeTransfer etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH0B0 Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 9 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: Can you share a specific example so we can understand which audio file(s) disappear when you copy which? If you can, share that project on your screenshot, along with the exact steps to reproduce your issue, so that one us can give it a try? To share the project, use iCloud, or Google drive, or a free service like WeTransfer etc. Thank you. This is the link. https://drive.google.com/file/d/17w3YTKthg9tcysquaVXsqIqvDFfJDpzV/view?usp=sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Can you compress your project before uploading? In the Finder, control-click your project and choose Compress, then upload the zip file. Also share the exact steps to reproduce the issue you're experiencing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH0B0 Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 (edited) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oauaBdcGJ1YFqTpuTQYOaIXTPbbHWXZn/view?usp=share_link I compressed it. The process is as follows: I set marquee tool enabled while holding command key. Make audio track in the project. Record something. In this case I recorded guitar with Steinberg UR22. Select audio region with marquee. Command C and Command V then the message in the screen shot will appear. The audio file is nowhere in unpacked logic file at that time. Thank you for your help. Edited March 11 by CH0B0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAC Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Has this only manifested after you updated the OS to the .4 version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH0B0 Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, rAC said: Has this only manifested after you updated the OS to the .4 version? No, this started manifesting when my mac was OS Ventura and Logic was 10.7. Then I updated to Sonoma and it manifested. So I tried updating Logic to 10.8.1 and it didn’t improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) The screenshot in your first post already shows the files are missing (no waveform overview is shown) so this doesn't seem to be related to the Marquee Tool. In the project you sent (which, for whatever reason. lacks the ".zip" extension, so to uncompress it one needs to e.g. right-click it and choose "Open with Archive Utility.app"), the "Brit and Clean" regions are missing their audio files as well. A newly recorded track in that project behaves just fine, and I can Marquee Copy&Paste its contents without problems. Edited March 10 by polanoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH0B0 Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, polanoid said: The screenshot in your first post already shows the files are missing (no waveform overview is shown) so this doesn't seem to be related to the Marquee Tool. In the project you sent, the "Brit and Clean" regions are missing their audio files as well. A newly recorded track in that project behaves just fine, and I can Marquee Copy&Paste its contents without problems. Thank you for helping me. Okay it should be my macbook’s problem. I recorded how it happens when I took the screenshot. Check it from the link below. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C3px1_-D4_cIibKWRKf-HiPpdOYClHLL/view?usp=sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Thanks for posting the video, that makes things much clearer. Strange behaviour indeed. I don't think this is a problem with your macbook, looks like a bug (albeit non-reproducible over here) in Logic to me. Could you try moving your preferences file to a safe place (so you can restore it again) out of /Users/<yourname>/Library/Preferences and restart Logic, to see if that changes anything? Also, what Drag mode are you using? Not visible in the video because the Tracks Area view is too small. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH0B0 Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 5 hours ago, polanoid said: Thanks for posting the video, that makes things much clearer. Strange behaviour indeed. I don't think this is a problem with your macbook, looks like a bug (albeit non-reproducible over here) in Logic to me. Could you try moving your preferences file to a safe place (so you can restore it again) out of /Users/<yourname>/Library/Preferences and restart Logic, to see if that changes anything? Also, what Drag mode are you using? Not visible in the video because the Tracks Area view is too small. Thanks. I’ll try that later tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH0B0 Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 (edited) 20 hours ago, polanoid said: Thanks for posting the video, that makes things much clearer. Strange behaviour indeed. I don't think this is a problem with your macbook, looks like a bug (albeit non-reproducible over here) in Logic to me. Could you try moving your preferences file to a safe place (so you can restore it again) out of /Users/<yourname>/Library/Preferences and restart Logic, to see if that changes anything? Also, what Drag mode are you using? Not visible in the video because the Tracks Area view is too small. I tried this but the same thing happened. I removed "com.apple.logic.pro.cs" and "com.apple.logic10.plist" from preferences folder. and recorded with macbook pro microphone. I recorded the screen just to make sure. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PUFhRf4VCtHabK3zRN5LYafdL-Ml_4Vv/view?usp=sharing Also, my Drag Mode was No Overlap. Edited March 12 by CH0B0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I was able to reproduce this issue. This appears to be a (critical) bug. Good find. I'll report it right away. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH0B0 Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 11 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: I was able to reproduce this issue. This appears to be a (critical) bug. Good find. I'll report it right away. That’s super surprising. I appreciate it. Then…all I have to do is waiting for fixing and be careful not to copy with marquee, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution David Nahmani Posted March 12 Solution Share Posted March 12 19 minutes ago, CH0B0 said: all I have to do is waiting for fixing and be careful not to copy with marquee, right? I'm afraid that's all we can do right now indeed. Or use a workaround, for example Marquee-select then press Command + R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, David Nahmani said: I was able to reproduce this issue. This appears to be a (critical) bug. Good find. I'll report it right away. Out of interest, could you describe how to reproduce it? I haven't managed to do so here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Record audio. Marquee select audio region. Command-C. Command-V. —> The audio file is gone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Thanks. Very easy actually 😉 Ouch, though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, CH0B0 said: Then…all I have to do is waiting for fixing and be careful not to copy with marquee, right? Only happens in No Overlap Drag Mode AFAICT, so it would be "be careful not to paste a marquee selection onto itself (which doesn't make that much sense anyway) in No Overlap mode". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 It doesn't matter where you paste it though. Try pasting it somewhere else and the audio file is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 That I can't reproduce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David Nahmani Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, polanoid said: That I can't reproduce Oh you're right I was moving the playhead but keeping the Marquee selection in the same place. Still a bad bug if you make a mistake though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Of course, I won't debate that 😉 But at least we now know what exactly we need to be careful about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, polanoid said: Only happens in No Overlap Drag Mode AFAICT, so it would be "be careful not to paste a marquee selection onto itself (which doesn't make that much sense anyway) in No Overlap mode". Can even be narrowed down to "be careful not to paste a marquee selection of an audio region you recorded in the current Logic session onto itself in No Overlap mode" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 21 minutes ago, polanoid said: you recorded in the current Logic session Those files seem to be viewed by Logic as more OK to delete than others, as they also display this dialog when deleting the last audio region that references them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 There might be more to it though, as I can not reproduce the situation as shown in the OP's video, where pasting the selection also deletes a file which would have a remaining region on track 1 after pasting in No Overlap mode (it seems they are copies all referencing the same audio file?). @David Nahmani, any idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonshu Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I couldn't reproduce the problem at all here. But maybe I'm holding it wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Very easy to repro really (if No Overlap is on). Attached video ends with Cmd-C Cmd-V. Audio file gone. Edited March 12 by polanoid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonshu Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Ah yes, "No Overlap" - then it has the behavior here as well. That's a tough bug - loosing data is the worst... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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