henrikhs Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) I think they did this on purpose / either trolling or hinting 😄 Edited November 2, 2023 by henrikhs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, henrikhs said: I think they did this on purpose / either trolling or hinting 😄 Wow! It's official, Apple announced Logic Pro11 on the Apple site!! 🤣 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just20 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) I really want to see Logic 11, but in the Apple Scary Fast Event video, you can clearly see the current Logic Pro X. I wouldn't think there will be a Logic 11 soon, think earlier 10.8. I don't understand otherwise why they show the current Logic Pro in the Event show. If there will be a Logic 11 they should maybe give a little sneakpeek in the Event show. I would assume. Edited November 2, 2023 by just20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozinga Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, just20 said: I really want to see Logic 11, but in the Apple Scary Fast Event video, you can clearly see the current Logic Pro X. I wouldn't think there will be a Logic 11 soon, think earlier 10.8. I otherwise don't why they show the current Logic Pro in the Event show. They would not want to show something they have not announced yet. The video might be prepared a few months ago. Maybe it is 10.8 or 11 with no GUI change Lots of possibilities 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre R Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 12 hours ago, user01 said: on the MacBook Pro M3 page, again in the music creation section, there are pro tools, it's impossible not to go crazy Yes this is pretty a weird and annoying thing for Apple to do, what are they playing at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre R Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 hours ago, henrikhs said: I think they did this on purpose / either trolling or hinting 😄 Is this for real! if so it must be imminent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrikhs Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, Andre R said: Is this for real! if so it must be imminent. Yeah, it's just a footnote tho but numbering seems suspicious 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Footnote 11 says: Quote Testing conducted by Apple in September and October 2023 using pre‑production 14‑inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M3, 8‑core CPU, 10‑core GPU and 24GB of RAM, production 13‑inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M2, 8‑core CPU, 10‑core GPU and 24GB of RAM, production 13‑inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1, 8‑core CPU, 8‑core GPU and 16GB of RAM, and production 1.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7–based 13‑inch MacBook Pro systems with Intel Iris Plus Graphics 645 and 16GB of RAM, all configured with 2TB SSD. Tested with Logic Pro 10.7.9 with project consisting of multiple tracks, each with an Amp Designer plug‑in instance applied. Individual tracks were added during playback until CPU became overloaded. Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of MacBook Pro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre R Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, des99 said: Footnote 11 says: Damn! what to think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Andre R said: Damn! what to think? I'd suggest: Just enjoy the completely unrelated co-incidence, chuckle, and think no more about it. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) there are 12 'l's and 12 'p's in the footnotes, which may indicate that logic pro 12 is next. this would make the most sense, so am thinking 12/12. see? all the facts line up... Edited November 2, 2023 by fisherking 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Or maybe that's the new name for our beloved software: "Footnote 11". Goodbye "Logic Pro 11". I know that may seem crazy but the quote below is from "des99", who is the moderator of a famous Logic Pro forum. He must have some insider knowledge. 38 minutes ago, des99 said: Footnote 11 says: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, David Nahmani said: He must have some insider knowledge. Ah, I know that guy. Dodgy. Don't listen to a thing he says... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre R Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, des99 said: I'd suggest: Just enjoy the completely unrelated co-incidence, chuckle, and think no more about it. 👍 Your probably right, or are you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user01 Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 cubase 13 is out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danisalat Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Whatever it is, I hope it arrives soon, as 10.7 was released 2 years ago and the last decent update was 10.7.5 a year ago IMO. Other than the incredibly useful logic for ipad which all serious producers are using and is definitely not just an app for toying around. I'd happily pay for LP11 if it makes working and editing audio a bit better. I've been incredibly frustrated with Logic the last few months. If it is subscription only, I'm going back to pro tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre R Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 hours ago, user01 said: cubase 13 is out Not impressed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 33 minutes ago, danisalat said: Whatever it is, I hope it arrives soon, as 10.7 was released 2 years ago and the last decent update was 10.7.5 a year ago IMO. Other than the incredibly useful logic for ipad which all serious producers are using and is definitely not just an app for toying around. I'd happily pay for LP11 if it makes working and editing audio a bit better. I've been incredibly frustrated with Logic the last few months. If it is subscription only, I'm going back to pro tools all this panic (i don't mean just you) about subscriptions. anyway, personally, i'll deal with what comes next... when it happens. meanwhile, 10.7.9 is great here, and will remain so until a newer logic happens. then we can discuss ARA & sidechaining issues, and whatever new bugs replace the old bugs. good times ahead! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre R Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, fisherking said: all this panic (i don't mean just you) about subscriptions. anyway, personally, i'll deal with what comes next... when it happens. meanwhile, 10.7.9 is great here, and will remain so until a newer logic happens. then we can discuss ARA & sidechaining issues, and whatever new bugs replace the old bugs. good times ahead! I haven't noticed panic! I think it's fine to speculate and I think people are getting a little bit of excitement at the prospect of a big Logic update, but don't want it spoilt by a subscription, I mean it would be a bit of a downer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, Andre R said: I haven't noticed panic! I think it's fine to speculate and I think people are getting a little bit of excitement at the prospect of a big Logic update, but don't want it spoilt by a subscription, I mean it would be a bit of a downer. i'd say that ppl here threatening to abandon logic over a possible subscription model are panicking.. but, either way, we'll see what comes next when apple reveals that to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user01 Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 If they offer audio as good as pro tools, I will subscribe, but if they don't, I will go to pro tools for the subscription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, user01 said: If they offer audio as good as pro tools, I will subscribe, but if they don't, I will go to pro tools for the subscription. can you elaborate? what is wrong with the audio in logic? EDIT: a few years ago i mixed an EP sent to me as pro tools files. i did a 1-month subscription to PT, opened each song (all audio, no midi) and exported parts. then opened those audiofiles in logic. basic audio sounded the same in both DAWs (as it should). i just wanted to use my chosen eqs, effects, etc in logic (also the place i am most comfortable. audio is audio. what we do in a DAW is what matters. or am i missing something? 🤔 Edited November 2, 2023 by fisherking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user01 Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) I want to sort this out no multichannel audio WARP , there is no good time strech algorithm and pro tools is far away from serato 3, no clip gain, only automation , No realtime waveform envelope view no fade in fade out, No Advanced Fade Editor, we can't move the channels in the mixer, no Track List, No plugin Search, No beat detective, No Elastic Audio, Still weaker for microphone recording and waveform editing: While Logic beats out some competitors here, it still can’t compete with Pro Tools in these areas. pro tools is the industry standard for audio, logic why should I subscribe without giving all this ? Edited November 2, 2023 by user01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, user01 said: I want to sort this out no multichannel audio WARP , there is no good time strech algorithm and pro tools is far away from serato 3, no clip gain, only automation , No realtime waveform envelope view no fade in fade out, No Advanced Fade Editor, we can't move the channels in the mixer, no Track List, No plugin Search, No beat detective, No Elastic Audio, Still weaker for microphone recording and waveform editing: While Logic beats out some competitors here, it still can’t compete with Pro Tools in these areas. pro tools is the industry standard for audio, can logic break the chain, without it why subscribe? i'll let others correct you on some of these things (and perhaps point out the places that logic beats pro tools). both DAWs are exceptional, and both have their strengths & weaknesses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user01 Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 You are writing these to someone who has been using logic every day since the first version, well, I hope logic will close these differences in the new versions and we will continue to use it with love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, user01 said: You are writing these to someone who has been using logic every day since the first version, well, I hope logic will close these differences in the new versions and we will continue to use it with love. still doesn't make sense. there will always be differences between different DAWs; different strengths, weaknesses... features. there's no difference to 'close'. anyway, glad you're getting your work done in logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user01 Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, fisherking said: anyway, glad you're getting your work done in logic. Since 1990 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre R Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, fisherking said: i'd say that ppl here threatening to abandon logic over a possible subscription model are panicking.. but, either way, we'll see what comes next when apple reveals that to us. Well I guess, I would say some people are concerned, not panicking but I get what your saying, I personally wouldn't like if it went subscription, It may make me look elsewhere, I guess it depends on what they offer, but I'm pretty sure it won't be subscription anyway so I'm not bothered. Edited November 2, 2023 by Andre R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre R Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, user01 said: I want to sort this out no multichannel audio WARP , there is no good time strech algorithm and pro tools is far away from serato 3, no clip gain, only automation , No realtime waveform envelope view no fade in fade out, No Advanced Fade Editor, we can't move the channels in the mixer, no Track List, No plugin Search, No beat detective, No Elastic Audio, Still weaker for microphone recording and waveform editing: While Logic beats out some competitors here, it still can’t compete with Pro Tools in these areas. pro tools is the industry standard for audio, logic why should I subscribe without giving all this ? Well I'm with you on the clip gain, I have been wanting that for a longtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, user01 said: Since 1990 I'm not sure that's entirely true, seeing as the first main() routine for Logic was written, according to the person who did it, in late 1991... 😉 (And Logic was launched in 1992...) Unless you were including Creator/Notator before Logic, in which case - same... 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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