marcel72 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Commander, I nearly had a heart attack when I noticed your name. From looking at your web page you're not who I initially thought you were, but... Any relation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallastech Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 apparently you saw his webpage but didn't read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcel72 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 apparently you saw his webpage but didn't read it. Actually, I did. Except I didn't click on the 'more info' button and read to the very bottom of the next page until now... Hope I didn't offend anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Commander, I nearly had a heart attack when I noticed your name. From looking at your web page you're not who I initially thought you were, but... Any relation? That depends on who you think I am really, but I'm not the Island Records bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkgross Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Thanks! Yes, I designed and built it myself. Very very very cool. Personally, I can barely operate an electric screwdriver... - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 It's quite easy really. Just place all your gear where you want it using a combination of tables / empty cardboard boxes / stacks of CDs and so on, then when you are happy that everything is within arms reach measure everything. Draw it all out so it looks presentable and calculate all the lengths and depths of the cabinets (spend some time on this as it's critical to get this right). I used 18mm MDF but would recommend 25mm as it's easier to add up! Label all the sides 'panel A, panel B' and so on. Once you've double and triple checked this, make a cutting list and then get your local woodyard to do all the cuts for you and deliver the wood (make sure they label all the wood from your drawings 'panel A, panel B' though otherwise it's a nightmare). Then spend a happy couple of days with an electric screwdriver and sander making the carcasses up before painting them. Great fun, very theraputic, and if you are having a creative dry spell it really gets you going again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallastech Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 @marcel72 - i meant no offense. i was just giving you a hard time about that b/c he says on the site that he's not related to the island record guy. haha @Commander - nice work. i love diy projects. i once made an entertainment center using the same process you described. it was a lot of work, but afterwards, you can be happy knowing you builit it. and when people visit your home (or see pics on a forum) and ask you where you bought it, you can say "i didn't buy it. i built it!" haha and on a different subject, robert plant is my favorite signer of all time, so that's the coolest thing ever that you've played w/ him for years. i now have tons of respect for you after reading your bio on your site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicRevolutions Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Here's my little room... http://www.audiosuckers.com/images/IMG_0215.JPG http://www.audiosuckers.com/images/IMG_0216.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rwatts81 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 My little corner of the world. Not the cleanest or most spectacular, but it certainly gets the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maeghan Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 so i moved from Phily to NYC last April.... had to settle in with new job, new city, only to loose my job and move back to philly ... so the pictures i am posting will be obsolete in about week ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsbarricades Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Alright Tommy 3 screens! Good to see some Tubetech around here!!! Gotta love the MEC-1A! As for the screens they are all 23" Mac Cinema Displays. I have two connected to the Mac Pro and the third connected to a Carillon PC running GigaStudio. I discovered a free programme called SynergyKM (for the Mac) and Synergy (for the PC) that is incredibly easy to set up, and this meant that I could finally bin the PC mouse and kbd because SynergyKM allows the Mac keyboard and mouse to control the PC. This means I can just scroll the mouse around all three screens completely cross platform, which is very, very cool. Actually I can't stress just how cool it is, it's that cool. of how to install SynergyKM. Not to be totally dull - but would I be able to use SynergyKM with two mac laptops? Or is there something native I could use? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 (edited) Ooops ... Edited May 6, 2009 by Commander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 ]Not to be totally dull - but would I be able to use SynergyKM with two mac laptops? I've never tried it but I can't see why it wouldn't work. It's a free programme so why not download it and give it a try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coil Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Not to be totally dull - but would I be able to use SynergyKM with two mac laptops? Or is there something native I could use? Thanks! i use teleport on a mac mini and a mac pro. it works great and is also for free: http://abyssoft.com/software/teleport/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coil Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 (edited) Edited July 16, 2009 by Coil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsbarricades Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 OI! I was super excited about teleport until it told me it doesn't work for PPC macs!! Thanks though. Other suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehunter Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3607/3467529794_87517e1e9b_o.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiewamie Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Ohhh ehunter I've been meaning ask someone about the Maschine... what's it like? Pros/ cons? Also the Ti.... good synth to have? Worth the extra dough over Massive or even the Komplete 5 pack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehunter Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Well I never owned an MPC but always wanted one...I can say I LOVE the MASCHINE....its so easy to just sit down and start knocking beats out...It has a good sample library and the FX are great. the load times for the samples is pretty fast and if you don't want to be tied looking at the screen it does a pretty good job letting you change parameters and go through samples on the maschine itself. As for the Virus...well I did have problems running the OS 3 software so went back to 2.7 and all I can say its a virus, nothing sounds like it, the filters are great and the TI part although I am not using much is awesome...Is massive and the komplete set great ...yes...but the Virus is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMB Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Our control room... http://www.logicprohelp.com/files/beltauer_studios_6511_147.jpg I use the above as an example, but this question goes to all of you. How do you most of you afford all the stuff you have. Like Mac Pro's and all the recording gear etc? How long has it taken some of you to save up for all the stuff you have? I am just really curious as i would LOVE a studio setup like the above or some of the home setups that some of you have. I just don't have enough money. Even though my job is a good pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterboy Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I just don't have enough money. Even though my job is a good pay. Some advice that was helpful to me: sell your body for internet porn. I tried it - but was rejected due to coming up a little short is certain areas (if you know what I mean). Of course this is in addition to working hard and saving or going into debt up to your eyeballs. But that's just me ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiewamie Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I guess it starts off with a lot of investments. You have to take a risk and buy equipment with the knowledge that it will most likely take time to get any good, and there's no guarentees that you will ever get 'good'. A lot of the guys here, including myself, make a living from music, so money is available to spend on new equipment, and a music producer always has to allow for a certain 'spending budget' each year. Some of the guys on this forum though will be earning huge amounts of money a year from music and the cost of a new Mac Pro, software synths, harware, monitors and so on are really not that great for them. When you consider a 'House' Producer can earn upwards of £5,000 GBP pre remix, sometimes even double that amount, you can see how this equipment becomes affordable. As I say you do at one point have to take a risk and spend your cash on equipment and not go out for a month, or cancel that all important holiday. I'm making a massive investment in a new (small) studio in the next few months... but I know it will pay off in the long run. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMB Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Yeah i see what you mean now. I guess i need to go for a standard setup, rather than MAC Pro should get a spec'd out iMAC. The photos where there are loads of Interfaces in racks...are they actually ALL used? some people seem to have stupid amounts of stuff. Alot of it i dont even know what its for. I have been reading up for months on recording and have slowly started to build up my gear collection, but when i see these guys with things i dont even know what they do i feel as though i am soooo far behind. Hence my question do they really NEED/USE it all?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiewamie Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 You get some people who love using outboard gear because they learnt that way, and they love the sound of the hardware, but other people use plug-ins. One advantage with plug-ins is that they are cheaper. They also allow you to use multiple instances of them... so for example you have a song with twenty tracks, you have bought a £300 compressor and you can use it on EVERY track in that song. If you wanted to use your £1,000 hardware compressor for each track you would either have to send the audio from each track (one by one) to the compressor, route it back into your computer and record it. This would take a long time and you cant save the settings on the compressor, so you would have to make notes or take pictures for every track in every project (if you wanted to be able to revert back at a later date). The other option of course is to buy 20 of the compressors which would be stupid and cost £20,000. I don't have any 'out-board' gear and don't plan to buy any at all. I get an engineer to mix all of my tracks and he has a whole host of plug-ins that must have cost him at least £10,000 in total. He is also of the new generation of engineers who uses his eyes just as much as, if not more than, his ears, using a spectral analyser. I know of producers that make the most incredible music (of course it's often mixed by an engineer at the end of it before being mastered) with an iMac worth £1,000 and an audio interface worth a few hundred pounds, with Logic Pro 8, a few software synths and plug-ins. Oh and not forgetting a pair of £500 monitors. A budget of £2,000 can easily buy you enough equipment to make chart topping music. It's your ideas not your equipment...especially as software synths and plug-ins are so cheap these days. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcel72 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I don't have any 'out-board' gear and don't plan to buy any at all. I get an engineer to mix all of my tracks and he has a whole host of plug-ins that must have cost him at least £10,000 in total. Cool. And next year he'll have to spend another 5k to update and replace his software as computer / OS / plugin versions render what he has now obsolete. And the year after that... Over even a relatively short span of time (say 5 years), hardware is still a better investment. And when it breaks, you fix it, and keep using it. He is also of the new generation of engineers who uses his eyes just as much as, if not more than, his ears, using a spectral analyser. Being why modern music sounds so much better than anything that came before it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiewamie Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Sure he'll have to replace things one day, but next year? Try ten years. And most of his stuff is UAD and powercore based, so correct me if I'm wrong but it's only the cards/ boxes he has to replace as the company will either give you a free update or charge you a very small fee to update. Was that last comment sarcastic? It's trivial whether music today sounds better than it once did. Some people prefer hearing warmth in tracks which you can only get from big old desks, others prefer a clean sound that screams out 'digital'. Another reason for these 'new breeds', if we can call them that, to use their eyes as much as their ears is that budgets for projects have fallen considerably, therefore people don't have the money to buy big sound proof studios with custom built monitors and a pair of NS10's, they only have enough to put a pair of small KrK's or any other project studio monitor into their acoustically bad spare bedroom or cellar. Therefore they often need to 'see' what their doing more so than hear it. I'm only speaking from the experience and conversations I have had, I'm sure this is not the case for a lot of engineers coming up the ranks, I even know some that work in big commercial studio's and mix on Neve's and SSL's everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 How do you most of you afford all the stuff you have. Like Mac Pro's and all the recording gear etc? How long has it taken some of you to save up for all the stuff you have? I am just really curious as i would LOVE a studio setup like the above or some of the home setups that some of you have. I just don't have enough money. Even though my job is a good pay. Why are you recording music? If it is simply an outlet for your creativity, then you really don't need that much. Yes, all the expensive stuff looks nice but it won't help you write better songs. Now if you are in the business of recording, you gotta spend a little to make a little so that you can spend a little bit more. However, saving up until you can afford it will take you a lifetime. There is always something better on the market, and they wait till you buy your soon-to-be outdated equipment before advertising the newer stuff. What works today may not cut it tomorrow. Some music stores will let you take up to a year to make a payment. You can pay a little at a time and pay it all off in a year with no interest. If you are making money with your music, this is like getting everything for free. If it's a hobby, then it's a debt trap. If it is not a business for you, then it may be best to get it out of your head that you need a big plush studio so you can write a few songs to post on Myspace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maeghan Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 a little late in the conversation, i probably should not be admitting this ... but i acquired most of my gear from dancing. Needless to say, I only made money from the Geeks who would come in cause i'm not the typical kind of gal that would dance. i managed to put together a nice little analog synth-based studio. While I did buy myself some plug-ins I decided to spend my money on mostly hardware - Minimoog Voyager, Dave Smith Mono Evolver Keyboard, Kurzweil SP2 - for a stage piano, prophet~600, yamaha DX7 (yes, i know its a beast but a classic). i figured that the value of these would pretty much stay the same ... analog synths are timeless soooo .... yeah ... the only pricey items that i have that will eventually be outdated is my Intel Xeon Mac Pro 2.8 Ghz and my almighty wonderful Digi003 ... (sense the sarcasm) ... i couldn't afford the Apogee converters and one more thing, i no longer do the job that allowed me to build my studio ... it is tempting though when i see new keyboards that i'd love to have ... but i'm content =) here is a link to my website that i have for all music related stuff ... (i just launched it is a little thin of content http://pulsewidthmod.com and here is a page of my studio http://pulsewidthmod.com/studio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpye Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 He is also of the new generation of engineers who uses his eyes just as much as, if not more than, his ears, using a spectral analyser. This is just terrible. How is this ever a good thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 a little late in the conversation, i probably should not be admitting this ... but ... Blah, Blah, Blah....Blah Nice site! What is up with the glasses, eyebrows an mustache? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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