JamesK Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 How soon will Sierra be unable to upgrade Logic? Just wondering if past OS obsolescence re Logic upgrades can tell us anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 It will not jump to 11. I don't understand the phrase "will Sierra be unable to upgrade Logic"... Do you mean "will Logic be incompatible with Sierra"? I'd say maybe 10.6 or 10.7 - or maybe 10.10 or 10.15 or 10.20? There's no telling. I'd expect Sierra to be able to run the latest Logic for at least the rest of this decennium, and probably longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesK Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Yes I ment when will Logic be incompatible with Sierra Well that could be good if I can stay on Sierra for awhile. My old 2011 iMac won't upgrade to Mojave and I would go to High Sierra only when necessary. Just looking ahead cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratquebec Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Lets hope Logic will stay on the X update path for a long time. Updates are free. XI will be a paid upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 really, no one knows (or they know, but can't reveal anything, on pain of death). this is apple; they'll let us know what's next when they're ready, and not a moment before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinkofani Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I wouldn’t be surprised that some day Logic will be free with a new Mac purchase. It would turn a lot of Windows musician, mostly the ones starting out, to the Mac eco-system. Blink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itssofly Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 What must to be happen for upgrading Logic Pro 11. Because Logic already have big upgradings and updates right. Like new Reverb, Phat FX , Step FX and Vintage eq selection. + Smart Tempo. To be honest that are upgrades right?, what normally happens for a big upgrade as Logic Pro 11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpro Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 What must to be happen for upgrading Logic Pro 11. Because Logic already have big upgradings and updates right. Like new Reverb, Phat FX , Step FX and Vintage eq selection. + Smart Tempo. To be honest that are upgrades right?, what normally happens for a big upgrade as Logic Pro 11? i think for 11 New EXS Sampler include 1tb New EXS Library + Chord Track + VR Audio + Dolby Atmos Mix and Master + fastest Audio Edit + and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itssofly Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 What must to be happen for upgrading Logic Pro 11. Because Logic already have big upgradings and updates right. Like new Reverb, Phat FX , Step FX and Vintage eq selection. + Smart Tempo. To be honest that are upgrades right?, what normally happens for a big upgrade as Logic Pro 11? i think for 11 New EXS Sampler include 1tb New EXS Library + Chord Track + VR Audio + Dolby Atmos Mix and Master + fastest Audio Edit + and more. But that can also be happen in Logic Pro X 10.5 I think. If Phat FX, Step FX can be happen in 10.4. Then is it possible that New EXS sampler and Chord Track can be happen in Logic 10.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratquebec Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 +1 And chord track has been removed nobody knows why, so it would'n be a new feature... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValliSoftware Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 +1 And chord track has been removed nobody knows why, so it would'n be a new feature... It was commented here, but with the Logic Scripter, you can do Chord Track with MIDI. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=139124 I like the Chord Track idea but to chord track audio would just be impossible when you use complex chords, not simple chords. I just posted some Scala files for Melodyne, technically you could achieve chord track with audio with a little work using Melodyne. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=139488 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratquebec Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Interesting tips! Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanRad Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 "This one goes to eleven." -Nigel Tufnel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottkrk Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) If Apple follows past behavior they will update LPX to 10.5 in January and will officially support the last two MacOS releases Mojave and High Sierra. There will be ways to install 10.5 on a Sierra machine, it might work it might not, only way to know for sure is testing at that time. Edited October 29, 2018 by scottkrk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 If Apple follows past behavior they will update LPX to 10.5 in January and will officially support the last two MacOS releases Mojave and High Sierra. There will be ways to install 10.5 on a High Sierra machine, it might work it might not, only way to know for sure is testing at that time. this (like everything else on this thread), is pure speculation. only apple knows what's next, when that will be, and what the OS requirements will be. and we won't know until they spring it on us, as always. am happy on 10.4.2; whatever's next, will deal with it when it's here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozinga Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Yes companies add less and call it a major update. According to those companies current version is like Logic 12 Seriously though for it to be 11 I would expect all new GUI for old plugins, updated Sampler and Ultra Beat, Plug in browser, Drag and Drop everywhere, custom channel order etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozinga Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Btw Logic page on Apple does not list some plugins including Ultra Beat and ES1. I don't know if it was always like this but if not, this might be an indication and tomorrow is Mac day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpro Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I think the big update will be shaped when it comes to cubase pro 10.cubase pro 10 will soon be presented with great innovations, the apple won't be silent and i think logic will show their real weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryVarth Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I think the big update will be shaped when it comes to cubase pro 10.cubase pro 10 will soon be presented with great innovations, the apple won't be silent and i think logic will show their real weapons I sure hope so, now that C10 is out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Btw Logic page on Apple does not list some plugins including Ultra Beat and ES1. I don't know if it was always like this but if not, this might be an indication and tomorrow is Mac day There are quite a few instruments missing from the Apple page, they couldn't possibly list them all: EFM1, ES E, ES M, ES P, ES 1, EVOC 20 PS, UltraBeat, even the newer Drum Machine Designer interface isn't mentioned! As for effect plug-ins, they obviously are listing only a sample of what's available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratquebec Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I think the big update will be shaped when it comes to cubase pro 10.cubase pro 10 will soon be presented with great innovations, the apple won't be silent and i think logic will show their real weapons Well Cubase 10 is out now. Where are the great innovations youy're talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpro Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 VR Audio (virtual reality audio production tools), Varispeed 3, Audio Alignment, Snapshot Mixer, New 32 bit Integrer Export Audio Engine, HiDPI new look Interface, and more.. https://www.soundonsound.com/news/steinberg-release-cubase-10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratquebec Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Snapshot Mixer don't remember automation, many complaints about HiDPI look, and more... Don't get me wrong, I like Cubase a lot too. Great daw. But upgrades are way too pricey imho for few features more and, essentially, a facelift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xchrisxtopher Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I love speculating about what might come next in Logic Pro! My biggest hopes are for a successor to the EXS24. Something akin to the sampler in Garageband for iOS, which is ridiculously easy to use for sampling. Also – the step sequencer in Garageband iOS. Crazy!! Can we please get this for Logic?? (Asking rhetorically here. I know no here is making the decision, hah). LPX also dabbles in drag-and-drop functionality with the EXS24, Drum Machine Designer, and now Alchemy. Curiously, you can drag-and-drop regions into the EXS24, but can't for the other two? A couple of workflow killers that would be sweet to see disappear – the performance lag of the Vintage EQs. When I boost a band with any of the 3, there's an audible delay in response from each EQ. Also, Flex Pitch's inconsistent behavior of playing back notes as you click on them (as noted in another thread). Purely speculative – I wonder if the Multimeter is going to see an expanded set of views? Alchemy features a real-time spectrogram, and Chromaverb has the incredibly stylish graphic display. Based on how the Multimeter is now laid out, I don't see why the "Analyzer Bands" drop-down couldn't turn into "Analyzer Views." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesK Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 Long time Cubase user here and I would not salivate just yet over Cubase 10. In theory things always look ideal however there are reports coming in that these new features aren't as reliable as one would prefer. They may work out the bugs overtime or they may not. There are many bugs they've never even attempted to fix from previous versions. Logic Pro for me is reliable and tried-and-true. I'm definitely not looking for gloss or aesthetic titillation. I hope Apple continues along this path of keeping Logic Pro streamlined and without too much fanciful pizzazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 ...Logic Pro for me is reliable and tried-and-true. I'm definitely not looking for gloss or aesthetic titillation. I hope Apple continues along this path of keeping Logic Pro streamlined and without too much fanciful pizzazz. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rkmusic Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I like the path logic is on now, great for maturing a daw and adding useful features. I have cubase 10, great daw too.There’s 2 features I want from cubase, slip editing and zoom to cursor or on cursor. Cmon logic team make 10.5 complete for me lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enossified Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 My iMac is just one generation too old to use Mojave, so just this weekend I updated to High Sierra and Logic 10.4 which might be the end of the line for that computer. I'm fine with taking free updates until they require an OS update. Then I'm staying put until the iMac rolls over and dies, or I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesK Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 My iMac is just one generation too old to use Mojave, so just this weekend I updated to High Sierra and Logic 10.4 which might be the end of the line for that computer. I'm fine with taking free updates until they require an OS update. Then I'm staying put until the iMac rolls over and dies, or I do. I'm in the same boat with a mid 2011 iMac. High Sierra is as far as I go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sascha Franck Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Possible huge improvements: - A clip based thing a la Live/Bitwig. Digital Performer has it now as well. - A super-integrated sampling/slicing/synth engine. Like a combination of the EXS, Ultrabeat, Battery and FXpansions Geist. As all of the internal plugins are sort of integrated (IMO the only advance over plain AUs), they should finally take that to a level that would justify them to be reserved for Logic. I could possibly elaborate all day how something such as that could work, but unfortunately nobody seems to be interested. This could easily take Logic to a whole new level when it comes to "modern" production techniques. And it'd be very well worth it, especially as the current "wrapper" approach (as happening with the Studio instruments, DKD and DMD) is absolutely awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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