brian289 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 A Logic Pro 10.2 session i've been working in for weeks is now not opening. It was working an hour ago and then I exited out of Logic, and by the next time I tried re-opening it, this one particular session i've been working on will not open and I get a message that says, "this operation could not be completed." This is driving me crazy, so any help is appreciated! I've tried copying the session and opening the copy, but that didn't work. I also tried importing it into a new session, which also didn't work. Why do all my other sessions work except this one all of the sudden? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian289 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 P.S. I've tried attaching the zipped session file that isn't opening to this thread twice and it won't post. I attach it and press submit, it "uploads" and when it gets close to 100% it cancels and doesn't post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Open Logic, choose Logic Pro X > Preferences > Audio and disable the Core Audio checkbox. Close the pref window and open your session. Does it open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian289 Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Thanks for the reply. Just tried what you said, it didn't work - still got the same message and was unable to open session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Sounds like the Logic file is corrupted then. You could open a new empty template, locate the corrupted Logic file from the All Files Browser and reimport all tracks+media into that new template. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Try this: Open Logic then hold down option while you open the the project n question from the File > Open Recent... or Open menu. You should now be able to see all the alternatives and backups. See if one of those is willing to open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian289 Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 David - I did as you said, when I found the session file in the "All Files Browser" I pressed "import" and the side bar where it should show me options of things to import showed nothing and behaved very strange and glitchy making it so I couldn't search in the All Files Browser again until I re-opened a new session. Needless to say this method didn't work. Eric - I did as you said, and when I tried opening the alternative sessions I got the same "Operation could not be completed" pop up as before. I have no idea why this is happening, the only thing I was doing today besides using the Logic Pro session was that I used Pro Tools for a little bit. I don't know if that could somehow mess up my Logic session... but I notice now when I look in a new logic session under Preferences > Audio I see two new input and output options that I don't think i've noticed before and they are called "System Setting" and "Pro Tools Aggregate I/O". Don't know if that will help figure out what the problem is, but I thought I should mention it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Sounds like the Logic project is seriously corrupted... not sure how to help further I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian289 Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 is there any way to prevent this from happening in the future? Does it have anything to do with the size of the session or does this happen randomly? Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 It's kinda random even though it seems to happen more frequently as sessions become more complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian289 Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Any tips to prevent this or get around the possibility of a session being corrupted though? I spent near 100 hours on this session so it's pretty hard to justify starting over without having at least an understanding of how to make sure this doesn't keep happening. Thanks- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The only tip worth its salt is to back up: take your back up regimen seriously, save multiple versions of your file, on multiple locations, etc.... Ultimately, as a professional, you are responsible for your files, independent of the tools you choose to use to manipulate those files and what those tools might or might not do to your files. Meaning that you have to protect yourself against the possibility of a tool messing up one of your files. So basically: 1) You cannot prevent files from being corrupted. This has happened since computers were invented, can happen with any application, and will probably continue to happen (forever?). 2) You can protect yourself even when your files become corrupted: follow a strict backup regimen. I save backup copies of my Logic files every 20 to 30 minutes, and in multiple locations. If the current file becomes corrupted, I have a backup to get back to, and at worst I've lost 20 or 30 minutes of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashermusic Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Sometimes a single plug-in instance can get corrupted. You could try opening a new project (not "session) btw), turn off the audio driver, and then try to open the project, If it opens, remove all the plug-ins and turn on the audio driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 You could try opening a new project (not "session) btw), turn off the audio driver, and then try to open the project That was the first thing I suggested but apparently it did not help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashermusic Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 You could try opening a new project (not "session) btw), turn off the audio driver, and then try to open the project That was the first thing I suggested but apparently it did not help. Then he/she is screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 @brian289 Attach the project to this thread and maybe one of us can find the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelonyc Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I sometimes put obscene amounts of time into a logic song. If you work at it a really long time, with tons of edits and changes, there is a chance it will get corrupted. Sometimes I save a version, quit Logic and see if it will reopen. Often I can go back to a previous version. hence, the saving, quoting logic and loading again.. otherwise you can see adding to a corrupted song. Once I've spent a lot of time. I export all midi tracks and audio tracks one by one. I save performances, channel strips. and use desktop photos to take lots of pics. in case I need to reconstruct a song.. A song might get corrupted, you see, weird markers, with total gibberish for names.. or it won't open. Open a new template and drag midi and audio files to the proper tracks, and times. re-assign instrument tracks.. I often put the time frame in an audio region name. along with a picture of exactly where to put it.. It is some work, but, by beginning again with a new project, you lose the corruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian289 Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 Thanks for the responses and advice. I've tried uploading a zip file of the session a few times and it uploads to 100% and then disappears and doesn't attach to my post. I can send it through gmail if anyone would be interested in receiving it like that. I understand if not, though. It's near 850 MB, is that why it's not attaching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Did you save your session as a package or as a folder? If saved as a folder, go in the folder and attach the logic project file only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian289 Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 It is saved as a package. I just compressed the project file and that's what I've been trying to attach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian289 Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 Problem solved (kind of)!! Eric suggested a few posts back that I try opening up a backup file from the session, there were many backups, so I tried about 3. None worked and I was getting the same weird "could not complete operation" message for all of them, so I assumed the rest would be the same. However, I tried one more time and one of the backups works (wtf..?) and it only puts me back a few days, which is a HUGE improvement from the situation I thought I was going to be in. Anyway, thank you all for giving me helpful feedback and I definitely will be hardcore backing up all my sessions and protecting my files like precious jewels from here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 That's great to hear. Make sure you keep a snapshot backup of this state now just in case. You can use the Save As function for this. Save it on another drive under a different name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Yes, good to hear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashermusic Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Yes, good to hear! David, make him STOP calling it a "session." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 But David loves Pro Tools! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 David, make him STOP calling it a "session." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamjhoward Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Try this: Open Logic then hold down option while you open the the project n question from the File > Open Recent... or Open menu. You should now be able to see all the alternatives and backups. See if one of those is willing to open. This just happened to me - but thanks to Eric this worked for me....thank god!!! Thanks Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABANAMusic Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Open Logic, choose Logic Pro X > Preferences > Audio and disable the Core Audio checkbox. Close the pref window and open your session. Does it open? Hey Master... Thank for your post!, I've done what you wrote and once the session is opened again, as soon as I activate the Audio, it crashes again!.. Any Idea what could I do!? Thanks in advance!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Open Logic, choose Logic Pro X > Preferences > Audio and disable the Core Audio checkbox. Close the pref window and open your session. Does it open? Hey Master... Thank for your post!, I've done what you wrote and once the session is opened again, as soon as I activate the Audio, it crashes again!.. Any Idea what could I do!? Thanks in advance!! You're welcome in advance! Once the session is open, remove all 3rd party plug-ins from the Mixer, then activate the audio engine. See if Logic is stable? If it is that points to one of the 3rd party plug-ins being the issue (which is often the case). You can then try leaving various plug-ins in in the Mixer when reactivating the audio engine to try to find which one is responsible for the crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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