sc Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 so did anybody receive LP9 yet ? EricBradley has unpacking photos over at the Logic 9 topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsmiguel Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 About the surprising apple announcement of Logic pro 9 release I like to comment the following: I am a Logic user since the very beginning. Since time ago me like many other Logic users are demanding several improvements in the software according to the new times and needs. "Guitar players are going to love Amp Designer and Pedal-board..." it says in front of the release add. Is Logic pro becoming more an application for recording guitar players and for mass consumers? I feel that Logic pro needs to be updated in many other areas not only in the Audio management. For us users that work with large orchestral libraries or plug ins that demand a wider memory management ( we need 64 bit apps with maximum RAM addressing from the app.) other apps like pro tools 8 or the latest Cubase offer certain improvements that we will like to see in Logic Pro. We desperately need: - 64 bit - No RAM limit inside Logic Pro - Better communication between Logic and Sibelius. I will like to see something like Pro-Tools Has, a Sibelius Lite Score inside the app that lets you write and export the score to Sibelius for later improvement. Or at least something like dumping MidiFiles from Logic to Sibelius should be possible for faster integration between both. Logic score is not really compatible with Sibelius as far as I can see. - We need something similar to Cubase´s VST Expression – An ultra-intuitive way of working with multiple instrument articulations from sample libraries, making a link between score symbols and sound. - Track Folders like in DP, to group, show and hide tracks in a large list of tracks from an Orchestral template... - In the midi area inside the midi roll editor windows we need to visualize more than one controller at a time like other apps do, not just one! The list doesn't end here, goes on an on Please people from Apple, if you want to keep up with the spirit of what Logic Pro used to be, a top professional app for professional studio use, not just for recording but also for serious midi composers, consider seriously all our demands to make a XXI century product. Otherwise you will only achieve a mass product just for mass people and you will loose lots of professional potential customers like me that will seriously start to consider moving out to other applications that give us what we need for our work. best Tomás San Miguel composer and producer mail@musimagic.com www.musimagic.com - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bo306 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Curious if we will be able to make .1 db adjustments on the faders in logic 9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muses Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 See the two responses by me and Eric Bradley (further down the page) on this thread http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=44072&start=360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 • Mixer fader now supports 1024 steps (10 - bit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) • It's now much easier to see which part of the consolidated window that holds focus. Edited July 24, 2009 by Eric Cardenas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) • Mixer fader now supports 1024 steps (10 - bit) In Logic 8 already - but you need a control surface. Is that different in Logic 9? Edited July 24, 2009 by David Nahmani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) • Mixer fader now supports 1024 steps (10 - bit) In Logic 8 already - but you need a control surface. I guess it's no different? See my post on the middle of this page: http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=225756#225756 Edited July 24, 2009 by Eric Cardenas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulplug Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I'd be very curious to a Logic Express/Logic Pro feature comparison chart. Apple's current LE9 presentation shows the sequencer is completely in par with the Pro version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 The new bounce in place function is really slick. screenshots maybe?? This sounds truly wonderful Here we go: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Region Inspector Float. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyweasel Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 just because theres a precedent doesnt mean its good for art. some of us still believe in hard f$@%ing work to make our tracks sound good. and you think "hard f$@%ing work" wont still be necessary? times change, and with the times change also our standards of what is considered "good": current technology is already capable of amazing things that were unthinkable when sgt peppers was made, but there are already many people who do not consider strictly quantised, autotuned and over processed mass-market music-by-numbers to be "good". we seem to share this opinion but dont worry, you are still gonna have to do some "hard f$@%ing work" if you want to sound good. i personally dont think that the sterile, beat-perfect factory-produced s#!+ that a lot of people make with this technology is good at all, but that wont stop me using the same technology (but perhaps in different ways to which it was originally intended) in order to make music which i do consider good. it would seem that you are (quite understandably) worried that any fool with logic can come along now and do in a second what its taken you years of practice and "hard f$@%ing work" to learn how to do - and this may or may not be true - but this would seem to me to a good reason why you (and me, and anyone else who believes in working on your own to produce innovative results) need to be putting in more "hard f$@%ing work" than ever before. not to keep up with the auto-everything TV-dinner-pop-music crowd, but in order to get away from them. afaik nobody ever created anything new or of value by complaining about change. if you care about art then use the tools in your own way, and react against that which you dislike: but dont just bemoan that its all too easy now and that anyone can do it, thats the lazy way out, i.e. not "hard f$@%ing work" at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashermusic Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 About the surprising apple announcement of Logic pro 9 release I like to comment the following:I am a Logic user since the very beginning. Since time ago me like many other Logic users are demanding several improvements in the software according to the new times and needs. Tomás San Miguel composer and producer mail@musimagic.com www.musimagic.com - Tomás, you and others are entitled to want what you want. But here is what I can tell you is a fact, not an opinion, as a high profile Logic author and trainer who communicates with tons of pro Logic users: Most of the most asked for top requests of working pros for perceived missing features have been addressed by Logic Pro 9. A form of Elastic Audio. A way to bring in Channel Strips from one project to another. Bounce in Place Multitrack editing Audio Quantizing And so on. As for 64 bit, as I have posted several times, a couple of years ago Dr. Lengeling told many folks, including me, that he believed that it caused as many problems as it fixed and that there were other, better ways to address more memory for software instruments, etc. He then proved it with the EXS24. And now Native Instruments has proved it with Kontakt 3.5. Snow Leopard should also help with this. So I do not think 64 bit Logic will happen in the not too distant future and that is fine with me. ProTools is not 64 bit, Digital Performer is not 64 bit. Cubase and Sonar are, and I see no evidence that there users are creating better, more professional music any more easily because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Transient Editing in the Sample Editor: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guavadude Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 just dropping in so I can keep getting Eric's juicy pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guavadude Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Eric, did you upgrade to 10.5.7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muses Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hey Eric. Can you tell us if we're able to fully zoom-in vertically on a region in the Arrange Page now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 HCan you tell us if we're able to fully zoom-in vertically on a region in the Arrange Page now? Aren't you able to do that in Logic 8??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muses Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 HCan you tell us if we're able to fully zoom-in vertically on a region in the Arrange Page now? Aren't you able to do that in Logic 8??? Nope. I can zoom-in on the waveform, but not the region. It makes fine editing impossibly hard, unless I'm missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtL Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Aren't you able to do that in Logic 8??? David, I'd like to know how many times you feel that way in the next week. Man alive, somebody shoulda wrote a book.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmicide Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) hey eric can you tell us about.. Edited July 24, 2009 by ohmicide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Nope. I can zoom-in on the waveform, but not the region. It makes fine editing impossibly hard, unless I'm missing something. Well either you are or I am (missing something). But here in Logic 8 I can zoom in vertically on the entire Arrange area using the zoom sliders, or on individual tracks by dragging their lower left corner. Or obviously the zoom tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 hey eric can you tell us about.. Report Bug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muses Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Nope. I can zoom-in on the waveform, but not the region. It makes fine editing impossibly hard, unless I'm missing something. Well either you are or I am (missing something). But here in Logic 8 I can zoom in vertically on the entire Arrange area using the zoom sliders, or on individual tracks by dragging their lower left corner. Or obviously the zoom tool. What a dolt! I've been using the track height thing every time. That is, grabbing the track header and expanding it down with the pointer. That has a limit, and I never use the zoom tool. ... still learning, thanks David! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmicide Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 hey eric can you tell us about.. Report Bug? yesssss did they address the plug-in buffer problem? or are they going to keep blaming everyone else? how's the interface? any problems with the auto-zoom or automation views? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) • New zooooooome to fit All Command! • Nudge by 1 or 10 ms. Edited July 24, 2009 by Eric Cardenas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 • New some to fit All Command! That one was already in my original post in this thread!! - assuming "some" is just "zoom" with a Swedish accent? But I'm adding the nudge one. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkgross Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hey Eric....One thing I sorely miss (or just can't figure out how to do)..is something PT does.. it's called 'Tab to Region Start/End. This is great, say..if you have 50 different SFX on a track (each their own region), and you simply need to chech the top/tail of each one quickly, in order, forwards or backwards.. in PT..you simply hit TAB...the SPL jumps to the top or tail of the region (you do not have to select the region..it just does this on the 'track'. Apple-Tab goes backwards. is there a similar Workflow in L9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzburg Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hello, Just a small question (probably a stupid one ...) as I'm quite new to apple. Will I have to uninstall Logic Studio 8 or can I just upgrade without the hassle of uninstalling and re-installing everything? Will I have to re-install all my plugins etc? Thanks, Ginz. P.S. When will Logic Studio 9 upgrade be available in the apple shops ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachcoy Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hi David, Got a question for you. I passed my certification Logic 8 Level 1 and got it in May of this year, I am looking to pass the second one in September (Level 2). Do I need to repass the level 1 for the 9 to do the level 2 ?? Do yu have info on this. Cheers man. A french guy from Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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