fisherking Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 those of you who know me here know that i always do this...i update my OS, then sort out whatever issues crop up. i enjoy the process (sometimes fun, sometimes miserable, but always a good challenge). so...i've installed 10.11 on my macbook pro (AFTER finished mixing an EP!), and, so far... all is (mostly) well. logic X seems to run fast, stable. app opens fast, my default template opens a little...slowly. my audio interface works (a nuforce DAC), and seems that all my plugins work, EXCEPT: izotope nectar 2 (and i've read elsewhere that ozone 6 plugins also won't open). so, something about the izotope AU's...they 'cannot open'. for now, here's my workaround (and it took an entire day of investigation to get to this): http://www.ddmf.eu/product.php?id=3 this works, is $49. it allows me to use the izotope vsts (there are other options, ie fxpansions vst>au app, but there's no demo, and did not want to drop $100 on something that may or may not work). metaplugin is a little...inelegant, but intuitive enough. routed audio thru it, and midi AND audio. so...good for now (at least, until izotope addresses the issue). if i encounter anything else between LX and el capitan, will report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn L. Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Hi, Do you still have LP9 on your 'puter? If so, can you let us know how that works? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 Hi, Do you still have LP9 on your 'puter? If so, can you let us know how that works? Thanks! sorry. in the spirit of my 'update-itis', i removed it the day i installed LX. def google this tho, see if anyone IS running L9 in el capitan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredBegin Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Hi, just want to check if you have these in your setup: -Kontakt 5 (or any Komplete 9 plugs) -VSL VEP or VIP or Mir Pro -Altiverb 7 -any Waves Curious to know if those plugins are running under 10.11 Thanks Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 sorr, none of the above. but i have lots of plugins, & all ok (except izotope, as mentioned) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosun Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Hi, just want to check if you have these in your setup: -Kontakt 5 (or any Komplete 9 plugs) -VSL VEP or VIP or Mir Pro -Altiverb 7 -any Waves Curious to know if those plugins are running under 10.11 Thanks Fred I have a test setup. VE PRO and kontakt work as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 izotope says to 'stay with the current formal OS'...they'll address el capitan at some point. they assured me all the audio companies are doing that...altho this is the ONLY one who's AU's won't open...(for me at least). meanwhile, the vst>au trick works just fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Hi, just want to check if you have these in your setup: -Kontakt 5 (or any Komplete 9 plugs) -VSL VEP or VIP or Mir Pro -Altiverb 7 -any Waves Curious to know if those plugins are running under 10.11 Thanks Fred Out of what you listed, I only own and use Kontakt 5. I'm running El Capitan as well. Haven't seen any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgman Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I can't imagine what might be going on in Ozone vs all the other AU's that would conflict with ElCap. Maybe something in their authorization process. I hate changing OS'ed for this very reason. Needless aggravation due to some overlooked new protocol. I don't see how this is progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 I can't imagine what might be going on in Ozone vs all the other AU's that would conflict with ElCap. Maybe something in their authorization process. I hate changing OS'ed for this very reason. Needless aggravation due to some overlooked new protocol. I don't see how this is progress. no one's doing this intentionally. really, if you picture all the lines of code from apple, izotope, and all the other apps you're running on your mac...it's amazing there aren't more conflicts. apple makes changes, and developers (generally) scramble to adapt. ad infinitum... meanwhile, i don't use ozone6 in logic, just nectar2...so it's izotope who needs to change something, probably very simple, in their apps (since ozone5 plugs seem to work, and...i can use the vsts for nectar). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmedia Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 apple makes changes, and developers (generally) scramble to adapt. ad infinitum... These days Apple picks up a very fast pace, that I don't like anymore. Too much too big upgrades in a short time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 apple makes changes, and developers (generally) scramble to adapt. ad infinitum... These days Apple picks up a very fast pace, that I don't like anymore. Too much too big upgrades in a short time. el capitan may be wonderful. a lot of people didn't like yosemite (not me lol), but so far, beta notwithstanding, 10.11 seems fast, light. stable. someone said it's what yosemite should have been. anyway, they've been doing new iterations os OS X every year, so in that respect, they're right on schedule. and you don't have to upgrade if you don't want to. whatever works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Apple is on a yearly update cycle for there OS's. I really think the era of "big releases" is over. EL Cap is basically a continuation of Yosemite. There are some new cool stuff but it's mostly performance tweaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpiccolini Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Apple is on a yearly update cycle for there OS's. I really think the era of "big releases" is over. EL Cap is basically a continuation of Yosemite. There are some new cool stuff but it's mostly performance tweaks. I wonder if the performance tweaks are for better or for trigger upgrade cycles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 i for one am pleased. i want my OS to (mostly) be supportive of my apps, not overly-involved with itself. and el capitan is about that: a refined yosemite, with focus on what's 'under the hood'. so...so far, so good (and this is just the beta)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibt Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 ... so far, beta notwithstanding, 10.11 seems fast, light. stable. someone said it's what yosemite should have been. I think this hits the nail on the head - very impressed at just how snappy things are under 10.11pb... Yosemite => El Capitan reminds me of the performance boost that came with moving from Leopard => Snow Leopard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 it's running well here, altho yesterday, my Bounce screen was all white (with a black 'bounce' button). rebooted, and good. and no other issues. to be honest, i enjoyed working in yosemite, but el capitan is definitely an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosun Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 ... so far, beta notwithstanding, 10.11 seems fast, light. stable. someone said it's what yosemite should have been. I think this hits the nail on the head - very impressed at just how snappy things are under 10.11pb... Yosemite => El Capitan reminds me of the performance boost that came with moving from Leopard => Snow Leopard Same experience to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 izotope plugins seem to be back in public beta 3! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocoroman Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hi all, yes I did installed the " EL CAPITAN " beta, just to try. I must say it is better then YOSEMITE, at least for the moment..All go at the moment. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocoroman Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 O.K. Folks, I admit that I was a bit early happier then you. After El Capitan beta 3 update, whole thing changed again. Well they have said "It is a Beta" and it is true. So suddenly, many of Plug-ins and Midi connections got lost etc. maybe it will be better after few more updates, who knows? I put some screen shots on my post, that you guys can see. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 possibly...reinstall the beta? or reinstall logic, and/or the problem plugins. hard to troubleshoot from here, but that's where i'd start. good luck..!.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocoroman Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 O.K. will do, you may be right. Actually I have Immigrated whole Yosemite to "El Capitan" as you say, if a fresh reinstall of LPX could do the thing. Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredBegin Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Beware with El Capitan public beta 4, my elicenser and iLok USB dongles stopped working. Back to beta 3... But the good news is that my big orchestral template made with VEP on El Capitan run smoothly. On Yosemite, the same template can't play without audio glitch even at 1024 buffer size. So the performance improvement doesn't seems like a placebo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I downloaded Beta 4 - and things do seem a bit snappier. Logic seems to be working fine and so does Kontakt. However, my MOTU Fastlane Midi interface is no longer showing up. I downloaded the latest driver from MOTU and reinstalled. Still no go. And Audio Midi setup keeps freezing. For now, it;s back to Yosemite! Cheers kc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredBegin Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 PB4 = USB devices problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 PB4 = USB devices problems meaning what? no problems here (audio interface, external drives, keyboard...). what's happening for you? have you tried, for example, resetting PRAM?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredBegin Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 eLicencer and iLok don't work here . Yes i tried pram and smc reset plus safe mode restart and unplugging every USB devices. No luck here. We will see if next updates will fix that or third party developper Will need to updates there drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 eLicencer and iLok don't work here .Yes i tried pram and smc reset plus safe mode restart and unplugging every USB devices. No luck here. We will see if next updates will fix that or third party developper Will need to updates there drivers. something to do with SIP (system integrity protection), which keeps OS files from being modified. try this: boot into Recovery Mode (command-R); Go to Utilities, and the last option is SIP: uncheck it, continue to boot up. both usb devices should work (just remember that SIP is disabled). report back! EDIT: not sure, but you may need to reinstall software for both licensers...maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredBegin Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Thanks for the tip. I will try that later. To be more precise, the licensers are recognized by the system, i can see my keys and licences in the ilok and eLicencer software but the connections stops when booting any hosts (Logic, Vienna ensemble, Pro Tools) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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