velanche Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 fisherking - Yes, I understand that the GM is now released; just defending your broader points. But it will be the September 30th release that will be the real benchmark, and I just won't that the leap until NI makes it official. But the hope is that it'll do a better job with having the compatibility issues addressed and fixed in time for the 9/30 launch date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 And no doubt the developers are all beginning to test with it but I still maintain that until the official release, and arguably a month after, nobody should judge them as somehow negligent if their software is not compatible. Flies in the face of the prevailing cultural ethos of "I want what I want and I want it now." I don't know man. I ALWAYS wait a day or two to upgrade logic to see if there are any problems. I never would have thought that for os x unless it was some kind of fundamental jump. For example, 32 bit to 64 bit, the jump to intel etc. I installed the gm as I signed up for the beta but never took part in it until the gm release. I'm in the same boat as everyone else. This is my solution and it really only seems to be the option that works: install yosemite on an external drive and wait for a fix from apple. This has to be apple as all native plug-ins work fine in garageband in el capitan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I did this as well and now (like a lot of you) I am totally screwed. I purchased another external drive hoping to restore from time machine after installing yosemite to it but nope, time machine is considered a newer version now and won't do it. Same thing with migration assistant. I literally don't know what to do at this point. Native instruments is vital for a lot of us and the thought of re-installing-everything is just unfathomable to me at this point. By the time I'm finished and everything is back to normal I fear I might actually lose some jobs I'm working on. I've said it before, in all the time I've used logic and upgraded os's (gm's only, I waited until el capitan went GM) I've never experienced anything like this. The fact that there is no real solution other than to basically wipe everything and start from scratch is just jaw droopingly insane I just can't wrap my head around it. I'm not in panic mode yet but alarm bells are ringing. in another 24 hours I'm going to be hitting the roof. One things for sure, I will NEVER do something like this again. Before I waited to update logic. Now, I'm going to wait to update anything until it's been verified by everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarletcuon Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 One things for sure, I will NEVER do something like this again. Before I waited to update logic. Now, I'm going to wait to update anything until it's been verified by everyone. greetings to all! here's how this problem was handled: 1. I created a small partition (60GB) on an external HDD - downloaded and installed Mavericks system -installed on it LPX (10.2.0) -installed NI kontakt/Massive/Battery 4 -test the functionality - all OK 2. I created a new folder (FIX) in Mavericks and put in the following: - components NI kontakt/Massive/Battery 4 -NI kontakt VST/Massive/Battery 4 user/library/caches folder AudioUnitCache -HD/library/caches file: com.apple.Components2.LocalCache.AudioComponents 3.I returned to El Capitan GM and replaced all the files with the files from the folder (FIX) Good luck to everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 here's how this problem was handled THANK YOU SO MUCH, the Kontakt problem is now fixed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 One things for sure, I will NEVER do something like this again. Before I waited to update logic. Now, I'm going to wait to update anything until it's been verified by everyone. greetings to all! here's how this problem was handled: 1. I created a small partition (60GB) on an external HDD - downloaded and installed Mavericks system -installed on it LPX (10.2.0) -installed NI kontakt/Massive/Battery 4 -test the functionality - all OK 2. I created a new folder (FIX) in Mavericks and put in the following: - components NI kontakt/Massive/Battery 4 -NI kontakt VST/Massive/Battery 4 user/library/caches folder AudioUnitCache -HD/library/caches file: com.apple.Components2.LocalCache.AudioComponents 3.I returned to El Capitan GM and replaced all the files with the files from the folder (FIX) Good luck to everyone! brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashermusic Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Why does anyone want to put themselves through this just to have the new shiny OS on the day it is released or even before? Will it improve your music? No. Will it improve your DAW's performance? If so, only marginally. Will it make you more money, get you a better looking partner, improve your quality of life? No. I will install it on the day after the companies themselves AND a bunch of knowledgeable users all assure me that Logic Pro, EW Play, Kontakt, Vienna Ensemble Pro, iLok, E-Licenser, Best Service Engine, UVI, Spectrasonics and Arturia instruments, and the UAD plug-ins ALL are working fine. Byt hey, I guess that is just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Why does anyone want to put themselves through this just to have the new shiny OS on the day it is released or even before? Will it improve your music? No. Will it improve your DAW's performance? If so, only marginally. Will it make you more money, get you a better looking partner, improve your quality of life? No. I will install it on the day after the companies themselves AND a bunch of knowledgeable users all assure me that Logic Pro, EW Play, Kontakt, Vienna Ensemble Pro, iLok, E-Licenser, Best Service Engine, UVI, Spectrasonics and Arturia instruments, and the UAD plug-ins ALL are working fine. Byt hey, I guess that is just me each of us has our own needs, our own methods. whatever works for you...is definitely the way to go. i like the challenge of a new OS, or an app update...and i like discovering new features, new options. and i like troubleshooting. but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashermusic Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I see. Do you do this for a living? Do you lose work/money when things don't work? If not, maybe that is the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 See, now you're just rubbing it in man. You don't think we feel like we pressed the idiot button when we hit install? For my part, I'm in the middle of an album project for bmg and two sound design projects for a couple of hardware manufactures. I feel like a total idiot for doing this. No way am I telling my clients what happened. We are all adults here for the most part yeah? Opining about how silly we are for glaring at shiny things adds nothing. To say that we've learned our lesson the hard way (at least for me) is the understatement of the year. Why does anyone want to put themselves through this just to have the new shiny OS on the day it is released or even before? Will it improve your music? No. Will it improve your DAW's performance? If so, only marginally. Will it make you more money, get you a better looking partner, improve your quality of life? No. I will install it on the day after the companies themselves AND a bunch of knowledgeable users all assure me that Logic Pro, EW Play, Kontakt, Vienna Ensemble Pro, iLok, E-Licenser, Best Service Engine, UVI, Spectrasonics and Arturia instruments, and the UAD plug-ins ALL are working fine. Byt hey, I guess that is just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 I see. Do you do this for a living? Do you lose work/money when things don't work? If not, maybe that is the difference. really, it's time to let it go. we all do what we choose to do...and, by extension, have to accept the consequences. i do this for a living. am currently mixing an EP for a female rapper, and a remix album for a singer. am at my mac too much of the time...but am not complaining. and when i have an issue, i resolve it, or find a workaround. but i like updating. so, let me do things my way, and i'll accept responsibility. and you can do the same. then we're both doing well. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashermusic Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Honestly, just trying to see it through your eyes but it bewilders me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Honestly, just trying to see it through your eyes but it bewilders me. for me, it's fun and challenging to dive into the 'new', and when it involves troubleshooting, my brain enjoys it (well, sometimes). then again, i replace synth plugins regularly with new ones. i like being challenged (and think my work benefits from it). one of my collaborators is still on 10.6.8, and logic 9, and he's happy. we each get our work done. really, what else matters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 more power to you but not me. I'll beta test software that I'm using but not os's or daws like logic. to much of a risk. I can see the appeal of people that do though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashermusic Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Honestly, just trying to see it through your eyes but it bewilders me. for me, it's fun and challenging to dive into the 'new', and when it involves troubleshooting, my brain enjoys it (well, sometimes). then again, i replace synth plugins regularly with new ones. i like being challenged (and think my work benefits from it). one of my collaborators is still on 10.6.8, and logic 9, and he's happy. we each get our work done. really, what else matters? i get that, I really do, but when it comes to potentially effing up things I use daily to make a living, I have to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I did this as well and now (like a lot of you) I am totally screwed. Have you tried the workaround provided by "scarletcuon": 1. I created a small partition (60GB) on an external HDD - downloaded and installed Mavericks system -installed on it LPX (10.2.0) -installed NI kontakt/Massive/Battery 4 -test the functionality - all OK 2. I created a new folder (FIX) in Mavericks and put in the following: - components NI kontakt/Massive/Battery 4 -NI kontakt VST/Massive/Battery 4 user/library/caches folder AudioUnitCache -HD/library/caches file: com.apple.Components2.LocalCache.AudioComponents 3.I returned to El Capitan GM and replaced all the files with the files from the folder (FIX)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I did this as well and now (like a lot of you) I am totally screwed. Have you tried the workaround provided by "scarletcuon": 1. I created a small partition (60GB) on an external HDD - downloaded and installed Mavericks system -installed on it LPX (10.2.0) -installed NI kontakt/Massive/Battery 4 -test the functionality - all OK 2. I created a new folder (FIX) in Mavericks and put in the following: - components NI kontakt/Massive/Battery 4 -NI kontakt VST/Massive/Battery 4 user/library/caches folder AudioUnitCache -HD/library/caches file: com.apple.Components2.LocalCache.AudioComponents 3.I returned to El Capitan GM and replaced all the files with the files from the folder (FIX)? yup, doing that as I type this. will let you know how it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 yup, doing that as I type this. will let you know how it works out. Yes? No? All good now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 HOLY MOTHER OF GOD IT WORKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleman Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 HOLY MOTHER OF GOD IT WORKS Must be Mavericks? I only have the installer of Yosemite.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 No, I used Yosemite and it works like a charm. I took every plugin out except for the ni stuff and took pictures of the ones that did validate. Hive, serum, stutter edit are fine. Break tweaker and ozone 6 don't work. I plan on adding the good ones back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 HOLY MOTHER OF GOD IT WORKS YAY! Please share the workaround to other people who might be having the problem too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I only have the installer of Yosemite.... You don't need Mavericks.. I actually copied the Audio Units Cache files from my Macbook Pro running a fresh install of El Capitan. I think the fresh install has something to do with it. Don't cry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I took every plugin out except for the ni stuff and took pictures of the ones that did validate. Hive, serum, stutter edit are fine. Break tweaker and ozone 6 don't work. I had to re-validate some of my other plugins but once I did that, every single one of my plugins are now working fine again I don't own Ozone 6... my Ozone 5 and my other iZotope plugins (Alloy 2 and Trash 2) have always been working perfectly in El Capitan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleman Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It takes a bit of time to reinstall... Can you share that file? Do you think it works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It takes a bit of time to reinstall...Can you share that file? Do you think it works? Erm.... my Cache folder will be different than yours so I don't think it will work. If you don't have a Time Machine backup I'm afraid you're going to have to reinstall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Anyone having issues with MOTU midi drivers? Last beta I tried (beta 4, I think), Logic wouldn't receive any midi. I downloaded the GM last night and will play a bit today, but just wondering if anyone else has the same issues. Cheers kc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 HOLY MOTHER OF GOD IT WORKS YAY! Please share the workaround to other people who might be having the problem too The solution is a few comments up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The solution is a few comments up. No, what I meant was to literally share the workaround to other people you know/encounter who might have the problem.. mine's already fixed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The solution is a few comments up. No, what I meant was to literally share the workaround to other people you know/encounter who might have the problem.. mine's already fixed... I'm not part of any communities but I'll post on twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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