des99 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Nope, sorry. I hadn't even heard of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Mills Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 No worries, Des. How about the trio of XILS-lab PolyKB-III, XILS-lab PolyM, and XILS-lab V+ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I don't have any of them, but looking at the XILS website it looks like there are two demo options: - The non-dongled versions cannot save/load presets, so they are out - The dongled demo is time limited but can save/load presets So it looks like I can request a time-limited demo license for iLok for each, and use that to export the presets. I'll see what I can do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Mills Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Sounds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 XILS Lab PolyKB III Presets from PolyKB III Download: xils_polyKB III Factory.zip (863KB archive, 13.7MB expanded) Instructions: Once unpacked, Copy the "Factory" and "FactoryPK3" folder to ~/Library/Audio/Presets/XILS-lab/polyKB III/ (that's the Library folder in your home directory) XILS Lab XILS V+ Presets from XILS V+ Download: xils_XILS V+ Factory.zip (210KB archive, 757KB expanded) Instructions: Once unpacked, Copy the "Factory" folder to ~/Library/Audio/Presets/XILS-lab/XILS V+/ (that's the Library folder in your home directory) XILS Lab PolyM Presets from PolyM Download: xils_PolyM Factory.zip (519KB archive, 2.1MB expanded) Instructions: Once unpacked, Copy the "Factory" folder to ~/Library/Audio/Presets/XILS-lab/PolyM/ (that's the Library folder in your home directory) Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Mills Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Thanks des! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgam Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Any thoughts on these three XILS synths? - having all the presets loaded in Logic makes them tempting but they are not cheap either - $450ish for the three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Are you familiar with the original synths these are modelled on? - The Polymoog is a divide-down organ-technology-derived synth, most famous for it's Vox Humana sound (used on early Gary Numan records like 'Cars'). - Roland VP330 is a string synth + vocoder. - The PolyKobol is a very rare polyphonic version of the (French) Kobol synth, and is a big sounding analog monster synth along the lines of the Memorymoog or OB8, but with more modulation potential. So it depends what you are looking for, and what ticks your boxes - try the audio demos at least to get a feel for the character of each. The emulations are of decent quality. But in general, you'd get the PolyM if you really wanted a Polymoog and it's character (I don't). Same for the VP330 - it has a very distinctive character sound and vintage good sound vocoder - if you don't like the 70s string synths and have no use for a vocoder, then it's probably not going to be that interesting either. The PolyKobol is a good sounding analog synth and is the one I like the best... ymmv of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgam Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Ahh thanks for the summary - I will take a listen to the samples as you suggest and see if I am tempted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidvilla Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 This is probably not possible, but if anyone's up for the challenge, the entire Dexed_cart_1.0 could sure use a "Logic-ification. : ) http://hsjp.eu/downloads/Dexed/Dexed_cart_1.0.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Hmm - are those organised in any way, or is it a big block of a gadzillion DX7 presets..? Edit: Just had a look, and it seems to be organised. Over 2000 syx banks..! I'll have a look into it, but no promises or how long it will take... Edit2: Ok, I had a quick initial look and it looks doable. What I will need to do is make it solid and self-contained so unattended it will walk through the folder structure, creating the destination folders to replicate the folder structure, and load/convert the banks it comes across to individual presets in the correct places. That way I can set it going overnight and work through the 60,000+ (!) patches bit by bit. It will be good because navigating this much content in Dexed is not a great experience... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidvilla Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Wow , thanks Des. As a huge DX7 fan, this would be fantastic. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Mills Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) Going through Dexed can be monotonous. Been there, done that. Edited April 13, 2018 by Seymour Mills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidvilla Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Yeah well, I don't think anyone is asking Des to weed out the duplicates. I certainly do not expect him to nor is it necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Mills Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) des is "the man". Edited April 13, 2018 by Seymour Mills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just curious here: Since those DEXED files are SysEx format, anyone knows if they could be loaded/recognized by FM8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Yes, they should be standard DX7 bank files, so will import into FM8 and the Arturia DX7V just fine. These bank collections are always full of dupes - while this is obviously painful when doing the conversions manually for this amount of content, it's less of a problem once you have a bullet proof script as the computer just gets on with it. As was said above, I don't do any extra organising of this stuff, just convert it to Logic format and offer it with the same structure - then what the user does on their end is up to them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Incidentally, what are you guys' preferences for the following situation: I'm going to convert a bank of 32 presets. I create a folder the same as the file name (to keep these 32 together from the bank they are in) and save out the 32 presets to that folder. Would you prefer to have the patches just saved as their name (so, they will ultimately be sorted is alphabetical order, which is likely different to the original order of each patch in the bank dump), or saved with the patch number pre-pended to the name (eg "01 - PhatBass") - so the files remain in the same order as they were in in the bank? With the patch number added, the ordering stays as in the original bank which has some advantages, but also makes file management a bit of a pain if you're going to move and reorganise patches, as the numbering really only has context within the original bank folder. Any preferences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidvilla Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Hmmmm, if it made no difference to your conversion method then I would stick to the numbered patches for historical reasons, and then if I wanted to re-organize patches I would simply remove the numbers myself. But if leaving the numbers out makes it easier for you, then that is perfectly fine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 It's not a case of whether it's easy or not for me - it's what's most useful to people in general. I suppose, if the numbers are not there, no one else can add them, but if they *are* there, then at least the user can easily batch remove them with a naming utility, if so desired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Mills Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 No numbers, des. Names of the patches are priority over having them numbered and most of us do like to rearrange them in different categories/folders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Any idea of the footprint space/size on HD such a big number of presets conversions will take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Any idea of the footprint space/size on HD such a big number of presets conversions will take? Hmm. Quite a lot, actually. A typical 32 patch DX7 sysex bank is 4K. One preset saved as an aupreset file is 10K, so 32 is 320K - an 80x increase in size for a bankful. Given the Dexed collection is just over 18MB, you're looking at 1.4GB, uncompressed (and about 60% of that compressed as a download). What actually happens when you save an aupreset from Dexed is it doesn't just save that preset, it saves the whole 32 patches in the current bank, with the preset you saved as the selected default - so in practice, apart from the extra disk space, it doesn't make much practical difference in use, you can effectively recall single patches from the Logic preset browser - but it's not ideal, of course.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Any idea of the footprint space/size on HD such a big number of presets conversions will take? Hmm. Quite a lot, actually. A typical 32 patch DX7 sysex bank is 4K. One preset saved as an aupreset file is 10K, so 32 is 320K - an 80x increase in size for a bankful. Given the Dexed collection is just over 18MB, you're looking at 1.4GB, uncompressed (and about 60% of that compressed as a download). What actually happens when you save an aupreset from Dexed is it doesn't just save that preset, it saves the whole 32 patches in the current bank, with the preset you saved as the selected default - so in practice, apart from the extra disk space, it doesn't make much practical difference in use, you can effectively recall single patches from the Logic preset browser - but it's not ideal, of course.. Thanx for the calculation transparency... I always wondered why an AUPreset had to be so big in size, compared to others. And in the end, although it is (way) more convenient to browse/search through a single/unified library, honestly how really useful is this to audition thousands of patches to select THE one... Anyways, just a thought, not a criticism, honestly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgam Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 vsm.pngG-Force Virtual String Machine Factory presets from G-Force's VSM string machine instrument. Also included are the expansion presets, but these won't work unless you own the VSM expansion content. You can simply delete the two Xpansion folders if you don't want these. Presets broken down by instrument and sound designer. Enjoy! Hello Des - just purchased Virtual String Machine and Expansion Pack on current sale and enjoying the Logic Presets you set up. Noticed since your upload that G Force is offering free - Philicorda for Virtual String Machine soundbank to all owners. You can see download in your instruments section on their site. And quite a bit of presets with that free soundbank. Any chance you could pull those presets for Logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I’ll take a look... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgam Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Picked up UVI String Machines today on current sale ($29!) and search in this thread didn’t yield these presets. Anyone have them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgam Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Are you familiar with the original synths these are modelled on? - The Polymoog is a divide-down organ-technology-derived synth, most famous for it's Vox Humana sound (used on early Gary Numan records like 'Cars'). - Roland VP330 is a string synth + vocoder. - The PolyKobol is a very rare polyphonic version of the (French) Kobol synth, and is a big sounding analog monster synth along the lines of the Memorymoog or OB8, but with more modulation potential. So it depends what you are looking for, and what ticks your boxes - try the audio demos at least to get a feel for the character of each. The emulations are of decent quality. But in general, you'd get the PolyM if you really wanted a Polymoog and it's character (I don't). Same for the VP330 - it has a very distinctive character sound and vintage good sound vocoder - if you don't like the 70s string synths and have no use for a vocoder, then it's probably not going to be that interesting either. The PolyKobol is a good sounding analog synth and is the one I like the best... ymmv of course. des99 - I actually purchased all three and enjoy your preference the best - the PolyKobol - but I do enjoy the other 2. And your presets all work fine. Based on my positive experience with these Xils Labs instruments in general, I am tempted to get the XILS 4 modular. Given you developed approach for other three synths, possible to do Logic presets for the XILS 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgam Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Any of you master logic preset creators know why in some cases when you click next preset command when you are at the last preset in a folder in the logic library that it advances to the next folder in some cases and other cases it simply goes back to the top first preset in the current folder? I would like it to always go to the next folder so I can keep on browsing and not go to mouse or computer keyboard cursor arrow. I have a next and previous preset button on my mid keyboard that keeps me in the flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 In the library, using the 4 arrow (left, right, up, down) keys from you computer keyboard will give you control to navigate. Left arrow go to parent folder. The right arrow enters the child one. Up and down arrows, I guess you already know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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