bcariou Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 7 hours ago, polanoid said: No. They don’t build them anymore, but you can still find the occasional intel Mac in their refurb store. Don’t know how long that will last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 19 hours ago, analogika said: Not officially, AFAICS. Just a single rumour. Okay, NOW it’s official. 😉 Monday, Oct. 30th. https://www.apple.com/apple-events/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, analogika said: Okay, NOW it’s official. Most likely for launching Macs, it's unusual for ProApps to get time in those events. *If* they are launching new Macbook Pros (rumour), then possibly they might have a "pro" story and show Logic and FCP in that context, but otherwise, a Logic update would have to be a *really* big one to get a showcase at an event, imo. Edited October 24, 2023 by des99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoobysnax Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, des99 said: Most likely for lauching Macs, it's unusual for ProApps to get time in those events. *If* they are launching new Macbook Pros (rumour), then possibly they might have a "pro" story and show Logic and FCP in that context, but otherwise, a Logic update would have to be a *really* big one to get a showcase at an event, imo. Agreed. Would be nice to see LPX11 though... even though I suspect it would be bug ridden for a year before being reliable lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Yes to both of the above. The event announcement morphs between an Apple logo and the Mac's Finder smiley face. I think we can safely assume it's going to be new Macs, and unless there is something new in the hardware that is super useful to us audio nerds in particular, there is virtually zero chance of Logic making an appearance — or of scheduling any kind of release alongside the new machines. No such hardware features have been rumoured, so I'm going with "irrelevant" — unless you're waiting for a new iMac or hoping to buy a new MacBook before the end of the fiscal year, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoobysnax Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, analogika said: Yes to both of the above. The event announcement morphs between an Apple logo and the Mac's Finder smiley face. I think we can safely assume it's going to be new Macs, and unless there is something new in the hardware that is super useful to us audio nerds in particular, there is virtually zero chance of Logic making an appearance — or of scheduling any kind of release alongside the new machines. No such hardware features have been rumoured, so I'm going with "irrelevant" — unless you're waiting for a new iMac or hoping to buy a new MacBook before the end of the fiscal year, of course. Unless they wanna showcase logics new ability to run TEN THOUSAND tracks on a new m3.... ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88keys Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stoobysnax said: Unless they wanna showcase logics new ability to run TEN THOUSAND tracks on a new m3.... ???? Ten thousand SURROUND SOUND tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAC Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 9 hours ago, polanoid said: To be fair, the price difference between Mac Studio & Mac Pro with equal specs is "only" $3000, not $5000. It’s $5000 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidvilla Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Logic update on Monday. 🤫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roli Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I've been a logic user for twenty-seven years. The fact that apple gives me sleepless nights with every update (os and app) has made me say goodbye to logic.Since two weeks I'm satisfied reaper user. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, roli said: I've been a logic user for twenty-seven years. The fact that apple gives me sleepless nights with every update (os and app) has made me say goodbye to logic.Since two weeks I'm satisfied reaper user. Goodbye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAC Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 @roli good luck with Reaper. I suspect that you may be back though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, roli said: I've been a logic user for twenty-seven years. The fact that apple gives me sleepless nights with every update (os and app) has made me say goodbye to logic.Since two weeks I'm satisfied reaper user. why sleepless nights? i've run every OS and app update (including all the OS betas) for years, and sleep soundly. anyway, good luck in that perfect world of reaper... 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88keys Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I just saw that the title of Apple's event for Monday is "Scary Fast." Apparently a nod to Halloween AND it's assumed, a new M3 chip. But I think there's a third meaning in there: In the new Logic version the default tempo for all projects will be 240 bpm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, 88keys said: In the new Logic version the default tempo for all projects will be 240 bpm. Gabber Gabber Hey! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, 88keys said: I just saw that the title of Apple's event for Monday is "Scary Fast." Apparently a nod to Halloween AND it's assumed, a new M3 chip. But I think there's a third meaning in there: In the new Logic version the default tempo for all projects will be 240 bpm. Since the rumours are of an iMac update and new 14"/16" MacBooks Pro: I don't think the M3 Pro/Max chips are ready yet. So maybe a super fast M2 Pro/Max iMac, and "scary" just new "Pro" colours for the 14"/16" — now in Midnight, like the stunningly beautiful MacBook Air? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidvilla Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I'm not expecting that they feature Logic at the event - I think they've done that maybe once or twice in recent years. But I am expecting them to drop an update on that day, like they've done occasionally on event days. For example, the one I can think of - the Apple event held on 10/18/21 where Logic 10.7 (the one with Dolby Atmos) was released the same day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudioQ1 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I think it’s safe to say we are for sure going to see m3 imacs and possibly even MacBook pros. Last year they wanted to release the mac books around Halloween but there was a delay in production so they didn’t put the video out till January of the announcement. But the film style was 100% to be included in a keynote event yes it’s speculation but pretty iron clad just watch the m2 MacBook Pro announcement yourself and you’ll see what I mean. on a side note it’s kinda funny how eager we all get from a single speculation video that has zero merit and we all know it has zero merit. It even made me put on my tin foil hat. I would say all 3 of my favorite Logic Pro YouTubers have drastically slowed upload amount and another logic based edm submit library artist I love has made a come back on YouTube in the last month. I don’t want to name names because I don’t want people commenting on their videos. But even with this tin foil hat if we don’t see an update on Monday I wouldn’t expect anything till 2024 maybe even late Q1 or early q2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 4:00 AM, polanoid said: No. For me, that would be another clue that next Logic version would be M-chip only... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Atlas007 said: For me, that would be another clue that next Logic version would be M-chip only... That would make absolutely no sense as the latest OS still runs on Intel machines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 33 minutes ago, polanoid said: That would make absolutely no sense as the latest OS still runs on Intel machines Logic going Apple Silicon-only won't happen until maybe a year after the OS drops Intel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, polanoid said: That would make absolutely no sense as the latest OS still runs on Intel machines and intel macs and the final logic version for them will continue to work when apple does move from the platform... 👍 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolmensDude Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 9:44 PM, analogika said: Logic going Apple Silicon-only won't happen until maybe a year after the OS drops Intel. well, they have announced that the transition is complete, and... they could differentiate features as being Apple Silicon only, or... latest generation only, something they do on the iOS, iPadOS, tvOS and darn near everything else they make. thing is, there is just is no parallel on the Intel side of the house for what's on AS devices, and if Intel machines could have not held them back on innovation, they wouldn't have switched/transitioned. I'm expecting a differentiation, what currently runs won't break, but... Intel, heck even AU format will more or less freeze and the truly innovative stuff goes and makes use of other things on the AS SoC that only exist on that architecture. we'll just have to wait and see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidvilla Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Still hoping for an update this year, next possible date is November 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, davidvilla said: Still hoping for an update this year, next possible date is November 7th. Why Nov. 7th? The previous releases for 10.7 have been pretty randomly Mondays, Tuesdays, or Wednesdays. They don't follow Apple's hardware release timing. https://www.kvraudio.com/versions.php?p=276 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidvilla Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Logic 10.8 released on 11/06/2023 Edited November 6, 2023 by davidvilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, davidvilla said: Logic 10.8 released on 11/06/2023 We're discussing it there: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoobysnax Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Need advice.... I am on Monterey. Everything is working great. I'm very scared to upgrade to Ventura and then have issues... esp since I'm very busy right now with multiple projects. What is everyones experience on Ventura? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Stoobysnax said: Need advice.... I am on Monterey. Everything is working great. I'm very scared to upgrade to Ventura and then have issues... esp since I'm very busy right now with multiple projects. What is everyones experience on Ventura? I've skipped straight to Sonoma and my experience has been great so far. If you're very busy with multiple projects however what I'd recommend is that you purchase an inexpensive external SSD (I did this myself with a 500GB Samsung T7) and install Sonoma and Logic 10.8 on that. Now you can start your Mac as usual to work in Monterey or start from the SSD to experiment with Sonoma/10.8 until you deem it's ready for prime time and install it on the main machine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Stoobysnax said: I'm very scared to upgrade to Ventura and then have issues... esp since I'm very busy right now with multiple projects. 2 hours ago, David Nahmani said: what I'd recommend is that you purchase an inexpensive external SSD (I did this myself with a 500GB Samsung T7) and install Sonoma and Logic 10.8 on that. If the internal drive is large enough – I know, it rarely is, I know… – you can create a volume with Disk Utility on the fly and install Sonoma – or Ventura for that matter – on that. Unlike "old school" HFS+ partitions, APFS volumes have flexible sizes so you're not going to lose much of your main volume. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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