des99 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 "Several people are typing..." 😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLH3 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, Deif said: New version requires 13.5 or later. Crap. For anyone still running Monterey and not ready to jump to Sonoma, it looks like you can still get Ventura 13.6.1 from this link. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/macos-ventura/id1638787999?mt=12 Thank you! And you can also get Ventura in its .pkg form here: https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-ventura-13-full-installer-database-download-directly-from-apple/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holger Lagerfeldt Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Slip looks cool. However, I only get excited about this: Delay. Compensation. With. Side. Chained. Plug. Ins. Is. Now. Calculated. Accurately. (...still skeptical since they claimed this before) 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Holger Lagerfeldt said: (...still skeptical since they claimed this before) Yes. It's not like there's only one single situation that needed to be fixed. It's quite a complex maze of different routing possibilities, so apparently they fixed one more which is great, but that doesn't mean there aren't some situations where there will still be issues. We'll see. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, mmm42 said: That said: ARA is not just depending on changes in Logic Pro, but also on Celemony and macOS. Yes, if AUHostingService needs some hefty upgrades to let ARA plugins running isolated get access to Logic's audio data, I'd infer that *probably* it's something that won't get changed in Sonoma, but if it's going to happen, it's probably more realistic to happen at least in the next macOS major version. (If something happens sooner of course, then it'll be a nice surprise!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisonfraud Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, des99 said: "Delay Compensation with side-chained plug-ins is now calculated accurately." Have at it! This looks like it could be the prompt I need to update from Monterey to Ventura... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 @harrisonfraud You win this week's "my favourite user name" prize... 🙂 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredBegin Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Patches that contain articulations now load successfully into tracks that are in a Summing Stack. Big one for me since my workflow rely on Patches, Stacks (for Stems) and articulations 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Is alchemy now drag and drop? is that why they highlighted it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, jmob said: Is alchemy now drag and drop? is that why they highlighted it? Sample Alchemy is really a new plug-in in its own right. It's easy to use and it's great! 😄 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn L. Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I'll have to consider whether updating my OS is worth it. Monterey and Logic 10.7.7 work fine for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: Sample Alchemy is really a new plug-in in its own right. It's easy to use and it's great! 😄 Oh wow, that is nuts! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user01 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 The mastering plugin is very great, we will finish the job in a very fast time with a single plugin without dealing with other mastering software and without dealing with extra mastering pages, what could be faster than that, great thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLH3 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Glenn L. said: I'll have to consider whether updating my OS is worth it. Monterey and Logic 10.7.7 work fine for me. Good and very valid question. Which follows the main one: Do you need the New Features in the New Logic? I'm currently downloading Ventura on my 2nd machine (my laptop vacations' mac) If every thing goes well (UAD and Apollo drivers, some plugins) I'll update my main desktop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeShapiro Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Ugh, the Mastering plugin appears to have a dedicated interface slot whether you want it or not. Even if you don't remove the plugin, the slot is staring at you in the face at all times. Anyone find a way to remove it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 You mean the little button that says "Mastering" at the foot of the plugin inserts, as a quick way to add it to the final slot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre R Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 So what if you are mastering using headphones? that's really been thought through! I think this a very disappointing update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeShapiro Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, des99 said: You mean the little button that says "Mastering" at the foot of the plugin inserts, as a quick way to add it to the final slot? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubsak Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Slip Tool is pretty cool. I can see that being useful. It would be really nice though if you could see a Slip value in the Region Inspector because I can't see anyway to undo if you do something by accident or what have you. Would be nice to have a numerical value you can tweak. Mastering Plugin is nice but there's maybe a little too much "magic" in there in that so much is hidden from view. A tool like that that does things automagically is great but there's not much opportunity for the user to learn from (outside of EQ) the tool because the interface isn't totally transparent about what is occurring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmob Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Next up will be the channel assistant EQ no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60s Pop Man Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, MikeShapiro said: Ugh, the Mastering plugin appears to have a dedicated interface slot whether you want it or not. Even if you don't remove the plugin, the slot is staring at you in the face at all times. Anyone find a way to remove it? Consistent with the MIDI FX, Audio FX, Instrument, EQ, Sends and Group slots. It's subjective but a useful design layout to me. Edited November 6, 2023 by 60s Pop Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seewest Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Holger Lagerfeldt said: Slip looks cool. However, I only get excited about this: Delay. Compensation. With. Side. Chained. Plug. Ins. Is. Now. Calculated. Accurately. (...still skeptical since they claimed this before) 💯 finger crossed this is FINALLY fixed. 🤞 can someone confirm. Just sold my Mac and waiting on an M3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, 60s Pop Man said: Consistent with the MIDI FX, Audio FX, EQ, Sends and Group slots. It's subjective but a useful design layout to me. It's not that consistent though. The Mastering "slot" is not really a slot at all, it's more of a shortcut button kinda like the Gain Reduction Meter, or the EQ Thumbnail: you click the button, and it inserts a Mastering plug-in in the last available slot of the Audio FX section. You can insert more plug-ins after the Mastering plug-in, or move the Mastering plug-in to any slot you want in the Audio FX section. The Mastering plug-in doesn't have a dedicated slot. Unlike the dynamic plug-ins or the Channel EQ you insert with their own shortcuts though, the Mastering plug-in does not appear anywhere in the Audio FX plug-in pop-up menu, so the only way to insert it is from that shortcut button. I suppose that could be because you're supposed to have only one Mastering plug-in? But you can freely Option-drag the Mastering plug-in to insert multiple ones on the Stereo Out channel strip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeShapiro Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: It's not that consistent though. The Mastering "slot" is not really a slot at all, it's more of a shortcut button kinda like the Gain Reduction Meter, or the EQ Thumbnail: you click the button, and it inserts a Mastering plug-in in the last available slot of the Audio FX section. You can insert more plug-ins after the Mastering plug-in, or move the Mastering plug-in to any slot you want in the Audio FX section. The Mastering plug-in doesn't have a dedicated slot. Unlike the dynamic plug-ins or the Channel EQ you insert with their own shortcuts though, the Mastering plug-in does not appear anywhere in the Audio FX plug-in pop-up menu, so the only way to insert it is from that shortcut button. I suppose that could be because you're supposed to have only one Mastering plug-in? But you can freely Option-drag the Mastering plug-in to insert multiple ones on the Stereo Out channel strip. It is an oddity. I appreciate that it's not fixed at the bottom of the strip, even if the "launch button" is. What would make me feel better about these shortcuts (including the dedicated EQ/compression affordances on individual tracks) is letting us remap them to third party options. Or remove them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MikeShapiro said: What would make me feel better about these shortcuts (including the dedicated EQ/compression affordances on individual tracks) is letting us remap them to third party options. Or remove them... The best thing to do is send in Feedbacks to the Logic team. Development is always a balance when making decisions for a varied userbase level, and making these things configurable also add complexity. I just look at this like a region parameter I'm not using - the parameter (or button in this case) is still listed *should* I want to use it, and otherwise I ignore it. But if it's something that you feel will get in the way and causes you a problem, or could be implemented better, send in some feedback about it. 👍 Edited November 6, 2023 by des99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeShapiro Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, des99 said: The best thing to do is send in Feedbacks to the Logic team. Development is always a balance when making decisions for a varied userbase level, and making these things configurable also add complexity. I just look at this like a region parameter I'm not using - the parameter (or button in this case) is still listed *should* I want to use it, and otherwise I ignore it. But if it's something that you feel will get in the way and causes you a problem, or could be implemented better, send in some feedback about it. 👍 Feedback to the Logic team is dev/null. Whereas grousing to my colleagues has positive psychological value. 🙂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonshu Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 No, it is not /dev/null. I've gotten followup questions from the developer team with requests to send song files showing certain issues. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre R Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: It's not that consistent though. The Mastering "slot" is not really a slot at all, it's more of a shortcut button kinda like the Gain Reduction Meter, or the EQ Thumbnail: you click the button, and it inserts a Mastering plug-in in the last available slot of the Audio FX section. You can insert more plug-ins after the Mastering plug-in, or move the Mastering plug-in to any slot you want in the Audio FX section. The Mastering plug-in doesn't have a dedicated slot. Unlike the dynamic plug-ins or the Channel EQ you insert with their own shortcuts though, the Mastering plug-in does not appear anywhere in the Audio FX plug-in pop-up menu, so the only way to insert it is from that shortcut button. I suppose that could be because you're supposed to have only one Mastering plug-in? But you can freely Option-drag the Mastering plug-in to insert multiple ones on the Stereo Out channel strip. Good to know thanks I thought it might not be movable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudioQ1 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 sample alchemy is the best. been playing with it since release. beat breaker is very cool too. i wish with the slip tool we could for instance draw a bunch of 1 bar chords. Then cut them at each a bar and be able to slip to a different chord but it doesnt remember the other notes in the region when you make the cut so theres nothing to slip to. shucks. This is a really cool update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60s Pop Man Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: It's not that consistent though. Yes, in terms of function as you described. But at a glance, it is a labeled area in the GUI layout. Edited November 6, 2023 by 60s Pop Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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