lagerfeldt Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 (edited) SSL 4000 G master bus compressor emulation presets for the Logic Pro 8 Compressor Legal These emulation presets are ©2008 Holger Lagerfeldt for Popmusic.dk and are not endorsed by either Apple, Waves or Solid State Logic. Download and Installation http://www.popmusic.dk/links-us.html Install the folder entitled SSL 4000 G master comp here: Mac HD>Users>YourUserName>Library>Application Support>Logic>Plug-In Setting>Compressor These presets will not work or sound correct in Logic 7. Sound example http://Dead link removed [Edit: HL] How To Use The SSL comp is intended as a master mix compressor on the main bus or on sub mixes, i.e. a sub mix of drums. The SSL comp is not a real mastering compressor. It is often used during mixing for subtle (or not so subtle) glue effect. You can use it as part of a mastering chain but rarely as the only master compressor, and usually then as the first compressor in the chain. Quick tip: Gentle compression For gentle glue type compression, choose a Ratio 2 or 4 preset, and set threshold for a maximum of 1-2 dB of gain reduction on the meter. Quick tip: Pumping and punch For less pumping or more punch select a slower Attack of 3, 10 or 30 ms, and a release between .3 s and 1.2 seconds. The Good All possible ratio, attack and release/auto combinations are included, apart from the exceptions below. Preset default settings closely emulate the default settings of the Waves SLL G-master compressor, which means you can do quick A/B comparisons. The Bad · Auto release. There’s no way to get the true sound of the SSL auto release in the Logic Compressor. · 0.1 ms attack setting is not possible in the Logic Pro compressor. Closest setting is 0 ms which pumps excessively. Not a big loss though IMO. - Geek Stuff The presets have been made using real life material and test tones. Levels generally match Waves SSL default settings within 0.2 dB. In some cases the numerical values are not the same as they appear on the Waves SSL, such as ratio 4:1 being 3.7:1 in Logic. This is not an error. Please notice that knee and threshold default settings vary depending on ratio, just like the Waves SSL does (behind the scenes). The extended parameters of the Logic Compressor enables the internal EQ sidechain for a gentle 60 Hz hi pass filter for closer low end emulation. A frequency analyzer will show very little difference between the plug-ins: http://www.popmusic.dk/download/logic/ssl/sslfrequency.gif Purple color: Waves SSL · Orange color: Logic Compressor Looking at the waveforms for transient changes, there is generally speaking a strong similarity between the two waveforms, and transients are quite similar too: http://www.popmusic.dk/download/logic/ssl/sslwaveform.gif Upper waveform: Waves SSL · Bottom waveform: Logic Compressor This doesn’t necessarily mean your ears will agree but the presets are fairly close despite using a bundled sequencer compressor. Happy compressing. Edited January 5, 2020 by lagerfeldt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdoubleyou Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Kool! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prospect Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Good looking out! I'm excited to try this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayenex Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Killzone! Nice song too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagerfeldt Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 Thanks, this example is not mastered though. It's a clip from a remix of a Swedish pop song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpye Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 YOU'REEEE A GEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNIUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSS Interesting that your results are SO close, considering the cost behind owning the waves plugins and also the respect their plugins get from almost everyone. Personally I've not wished for another compressor since Logic 8. It's ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjigga3000 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 souinds very close, except that the Logic Compressor is not as full as the the SSL, in the lower mid range. It's a slight difference, and the regular consumer would not be able to tell. The SSL is slightly smoother. The differences are so subtle, that I wouldn't go out and buy the plugs because of that, because you could adjust that in the eq. I'm interested in seeing the difference on a channel strip versus the mix bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nado Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Man, I can't hear the difference! I'm impressed. Makes me wonder what other "emulations" could be pulled off with the Logic Compressor - or other plugins for that matter.... Amazing lagerfeldt!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterboy Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Dood! Not only are you a model for GQ, but you are ruler of cool stuff! Kidding aside - nice job! Very cool of you to share this with the class. Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Tomasi Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 You rock. Very cool man, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluey Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Rend mig i røven!!! Brilliant man!!! I think I love you now, so be very afraid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidgary73 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 (edited) Superb!!! Thank you sir. Your SV315 Mk2 Sonalksis SSL Stereo Compressors emulation on your website are awesome too. Cheers David Edited April 18, 2008 by davidgary73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagerfeldt Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 Rend mig i røven!!! Well, f*ck u 2 mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Lazer Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Wow, man... thanks a lot for sharing!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoSatis Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 From 1 GQ model to another thank you VERY much for these presets. They are MUCH appreciated. Have a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamworkmammal Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 THANKS!!! out of curiosity, which do you prefer, the sonalksis or logic emulations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterboy Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagate Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Thank you for sharing http://www.msc.id.au/private/tmp/applaudit.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fader8 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Hey lager, Your posting of this was timely as I was about to do my own comparison of a few comps for just this purpose, bus compression! Your VCA 4:1, 3mS attack, 100mS release, with a max 3dB-ish gain reduction setting is damn close to my favorite bus setting, so I used that for a benchmark. Comparing the Logic comp to the SV-315 and the new UAD Precision bus compressor, I'm surprised at how well the Logic comp holds up. In a nutshell, they all sound great! At higher ratios. which I'd never use on a mix bus anyway, the UAD pulls ahead a bit, but for normal bus use I gotta say the Logic comp is quite adequate. Let me know if you'd like to hear any before/after snippets with the UAD. I could upload to my site for you. I did my comparisons keeping levels and crest factors within 1dB, so it's a fair deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcel72 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Well, this is a first for me. A plugin to emulate... A plugin. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timgosden Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 THANK YOU SO MUCH I've been contemplating buying the bundle, just because I love the compression so this is really great! Thanks alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biff_larken Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 I'm at work and can't download anything, just curious.. from what I gather, these are presets for Logic 8's compressor to emulate an SSL compressor..correct? If so, AWESOME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perversity Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 lagerfeldt, you are the man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagerfeldt Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 Your VCA 4:1, 3mS attack, 100mS release, with a max 3dB-ish gain reduction setting is damn close to my favorite bus setting, so I used that for a benchmark. Nice. My own favourite is: Ratio 4, 10 ms attack, 300 ms release (0.3 s) Well, this is a first for me. A plugin to emulate... A plugin. LOL Heh heh, yeah pretty ironic isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fratts Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 These are f@cking great!!!! Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vm1971 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 These are f@cking great!!!! Many thanks EXCITED TO TRY! speaking of models .... wait til u fellas see my "sleeve" design when its done... ) 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizemen Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Whats the best setting for hiphop drums? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpye Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Whats the best setting for hiphop drums? Thanks I think I speak on behalf of everyone on this forum in saying that is simply and IMPOSSIBLE question to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizemen Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Thanks ill just keep listening....thanks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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