MacOS Sonoma is out. Please report any plug-in incompatibilities.

[Eon]

Any early birds? 🙂

[fisherking]

i've posted on this forum about sonoma since beta 1 in june.

am now running the final sonoma, and all is well here: all my 3rd-party plugins work (fwiw, i don't have any plugin alliance plugins, which have proved problematic apparently).

all my apps work as well, so... good news overall.

[Mania]

No Logic 10.8???? 🙂

[des99]

Where you expecting one? I don't recall simultaneous macOS and Logic releases in the past, so I have no reason to expect one now. If Logic required work to make it Sonoma compatible, that would have been done for earlier updates, so it's ready for the new macOS release on day one...

Having said that, FCPX/Motion/Compressor got updates a week or two back, so it's not impossible we get another update soon. But not necessarily...

Edited September 26 by des99

[mattrixx]

Been running Sonoma for a couple of weeks now.  No issue and plenty of fixes.

No more Core Audio glitches on Apple Silicon.  Yay!!

Definitely snappier too.

[sunbrother]

8 hours ago, des99 said:

Where you expecting one? I don't recall simultaneous macOS and Logic releases in the past, so I have no reason to expect one now. If Logic required work to make it Sonoma compatible, that would have been done for earlier updates, so it's ready for the new macOS release on day one...

Having said that, FCPX/Motion/Compressor got updates a week or two back, so it's not impossible we get another update soon. But not necessarily...

Some of us who would benefit from ARA were. Apple started support for ARA2 in 2018 and broke it in 2020. ARA has now been broken longer than it's been in the DAW, because they need to re-work the ARA implementation for how Apple Silicon handles processes.

And for anyone saying to run Rosetta, we're now deep enough into Apple Silicon where a lot of software doesn't work with Rosetta.

Edited September 27 by sunbrother

[Attracks pilot]

May I suggest to pin this thread?

[David Nahmani]

27 minutes ago, Attracks pilot said:

May I suggest to pin this thread?

Done.

[ozinga]

I just updated to Ventura last week  in case Logic has an update with Ventura minimum and not to  be forced to install Sonoma 😀

Will follow this thread with interest

[Eon]

I love Sonoma so far. Best MacOS release since the long time.

[jmob]

it works fine. No complaints.

[fisherking]

a few days later lol (27 sept) and am back on the betas (14.1). will post IF i find anything weird/miserable/difficult...

but guess this discussion should center around the official release 👍

[marcperi]

Logic Pro 10.7.9 -
New Mac OS Sonoma 14
Macbook Pro i9
So far No Problem with different 3rd party plugins as well. All original

[Ashermusic]

Can anyone verify that the any of the following have no problems with Sonoma?

Kontakt 7; EastWest Opus; UVI Workstation; Best Service Engine; Spectrasonics Omnisphere, Trillian and Stylus RMX.

UAD PSP, Apogee,and Clairphonic plug-ins,

[dbboy]

Kontakt 7 and UVI workstation working fine here. Everything is running well. Updated to Sonoma this AM

[des99]

Question: Can anyone who has iLok machine authorisations confirm that they stay intact when you upgrade the OS? Or did you need to deactivate them first?

(I'm assuming the former, but would like to have that confirmed by someone...)

Asking for me.

Edit: Machine activations hold through the upgrade OK. 👍

Edited September 28 by des99

[dbboy]

Ilok Machine auth working fine.

[PP1965]

In my experience Steinberg's Halion 7 dialog windows appears empty.

[des99]

So Far, So Noma 🙂

I think this is the first macOS upgrade I can remember that didn't mess up all my unix configs, too. 👍

[Ashermusic]

As of September 20, at least: “Currently, Native Instruments software and hardware products are not supported on macOS 14 Sonoma. We cannot recommend to update to macOS 14 at this point.”

[PP1965]

This doesn't mean that NI apps don't work at all or properly, it means that they aren't provide support officially. It's up to you to whether you update the OS, but they won't help if you experience any kind of issue.

Edited September 28 by PP1965

[fisherking]

11 minutes ago, Ashermusic said:

As of September 20, at least: “Currently, Native Instruments software and hardware products are not supported on macOS 14 Sonoma. We cannot recommend to update to macOS 14 at this point.”

'not supported' does not automatically mean 'not working'. i've used massive X (my only official NI plugin) all thru the betas, and currently on the final OS release. and my izotope plugins (ok, not technically NI) all work...

[Ashermusic]

Absolutely true, which I why I asked people here to report If they are successfully running them under Sonoma.

But until at least some people say they are, I cannot trust it if N.I. says “wait.”

[Steve Crown]

2 hours ago, PP1965 said:

In my experience Steinberg's Halion 7 dialog windows appears empty.

Steinberg seems to have problems with a changed graphics API, this affects a couple of their products. From what they said, this will be fixed both by Apple in a maintenance update to Sonoma and later by Steinberg by properly updating their code to use newer APIs.

[redgreenblue]

3 minutes ago, Steve Crown said:

Steinberg seems to have problems with a changed graphics API, this affects a couple of their products. From what they said, this will be fixed both by Apple in a maintenance update to Sonoma and later by Steinberg by properly updating their code to use newer APIs.

Steinberg's Mac support has been unimpressive for a long time

[Ashermusic]

1 minute ago, redgreenblue said:

Steinberg's Mac support has been unimpressive for a long time

They have always been PC centric . Not sure if it’s still true, but Cubase for Mac  used to be developed on PC and then ported to the Mac 

[fisherking]

15 minutes ago, Ashermusic said:

Absolutely true, which I why I asked people here to report If they are successfully running them under Sonoma.

But until at least some people say they are, I cannot trust it if N.I. says “wait.”

massive X works here and is an NI plugin. just pointing this out...

[redgreenblue]

The debacle that was Cubase 4, when they first had Intel Mac support, was so egregiously bad that I switched to Logic. I was a Cubase user from 1996 to 2008. In the 90s it was great on the Mac. 

It's a shame because HalionSonic is a *super* powerful and great sounding plug, but it runs like crap in Logic and I host it in VEP on a separate Mac. 

 

Edited September 28 by redgreenblue
typo

[des99]

And... my audio SSD (Samsung T7) just got corrupted and couldn't be mounted, or repaired by Disk Utility. Which is somewhat concerning...

I had some performance issues where the kernel was getting bogged down (easy to see as the mouse cursor gets glitchy, and other glitchy behaviour, and a higher than expected kernal task load in Activity Monitor). Seems this was related to USB (I had swapped over my SSDs and USB devices between the USB-C and USB3 port on my hub a week ago), and while Monterey didn't have any problems with this, Sonoma seemed to be struggling with the SSDs over USB.

And consequently, which I can't help feel is related, one of the SSDs got corrupted.

I reverted to the earlier USB cable config, and the glitchiness seems to have gone, so I'll restore the SSD, and hope the behaviour doesn't return...

[PP1965]

Hi des99,

I have two Samsung T7 2TB SSDs and they work perfectly with Sonoma. Maybe the problem is different than Sonoma.